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12:05:10 <kaz> meeting: WoT Marketing
12:05:31 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool
12:05:58 <dape> scribe: dape
12:07:26 <dape> TOPIC: Approve previous minutes
12:07:53 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Feb 15
12:07:59 <kaz> q+
12:08:00 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html
12:09:23 <kaz> s/html/html Feb-15/
12:10:57 <dape> Ege: <walks over minutes>
12:12:07 <dape> Ege: anything to change?
12:12:21 <dape> ... none --> minutes approved
12:12:26 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Feb 22
12:12:37 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/263
12:13:01 <dape> Ege: postponed, Kaz works on integrating scribed minutes
12:13:07 <dape> TOPIC: Pull Requests
12:13:16 <dape> SUBTOPIC: PR #263
12:13:23 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/263
12:13:45 <dape> Ege: Got some feedback during the call
12:13:56 <dape> ... will work on these comments
12:14:21 <McCool> q+
12:14:30 <kaz> q-
12:14:36 <dape> ... SK pointed me to Industrie 4.0 PDF which provides something similar
12:14:47 <dape> --> https://www.plattform-i40.de/IP/Redaktion/EN/Downloads/Publikation/AAS-ReadingGuide202201.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=4
12:14:53 <cris> 1+ I like the approach too
12:14:58 <dape> Ege: I like the approach taken
12:15:20 <dape> MMC: Not exactly the same as developer journey
12:15:25 <dape> ... more spec guideline
12:15:39 <kaz> s/263/263 PR 263 - WIP Developer Journey/
12:15:58 <kaz> s/-->/->/
12:16:10 <kaz> s/v=4/v=4 Industrie 4.0 PDF/
12:16:15 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:16:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:16:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/01-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:17:14 <dape> MMC: like a reading guide
12:17:34 <dape> Ege: Will create issue for a "reading guide"
12:18:23 <dape> MMC: Should look at architecture document, is it enough for business people?
12:18:35 <dape> ... or some sections
12:19:47 <dape> Ege: w.r.t. to comments in PR, will work on it
12:19:53 <dape> MMC: Where does the content go?
12:20:24 <dape> Ege: in top of developers page there is a new para pointing to a new site
12:20:29 <kaz> chair: Ege
12:21:18 <dape> TOPIC: Easy Issues
12:21:26 <dape> SUBTOPIC: CG Page Links
12:21:31 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/270
12:21:45 <dape> Ege: each page has own web-page
12:22:00 <dape> ... our CG page does not point to it
12:22:27 <dape> ... wonder whether we need all these other links like participants
12:22:45 <kaz> q+
12:22:47 <dape> MMC: Wonder whether we should note chair selection process
12:23:06 <dape> Ege: I think we should just update once it happened
12:23:08 <kaz> ack k
12:23:10 <kaz> ack m
12:23:22 <dape> Kaz: chairs will be selected tomorrow
12:23:37 <kaz> s/selected/decided/
12:24:05 <dape> Ege: Not sure how to nicely show this *new* link
12:24:32 <dape> q+
12:25:04 <dape> ... shall we remove mailing list?
12:25:25 <dape> MMC: one link to the CG page is enough
12:26:27 <dape> DP: w.r.t. layout, we can use HTML tabs
12:26:29 <dape> ack dape
12:26:49 <dape> CA: Okay having just one link
12:26:56 <McCool> q+
12:27:54 <McCool> (comment was that it is better to have one link going somewhere useful rather than four links, only one of which goes somewhere useful...)
12:29:48 <dape> DP: Wonder whether we can remove "participants" and add Website link at the top
12:30:17 <dape> Ege: I noticed also several mailing-lists on CG pages
12:31:06 <kaz> q+
12:31:18 <McCool> ack m
12:31:53 <dape> Kaz: Community groups are different groups. Hence I suggest to just add the link to each group
12:32:27 <dape> ... Links can change and maintained on their side
12:32:55 <dape> Ege: not sure about tabbing
12:33:14 <dape> MMC: Tabs are not needed if the entries are short
12:33:43 <dape> Ege: Daniel will provide  a proposal
12:33:57 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Marketing TF place
12:34:03 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/219
12:34:42 <dape> Ege: Japanese CG has even different task forces
12:35:20 <dape> .. Comment from CA: "Assume that the TF inside the WoT CG decides a new style from READMEs (which are inside repositories controlled by WoT WG) can we apply the changes without asking again for consensus inside the WG? or do we have to wait for another approval.... ?"
12:35:31 <cris> q+
12:35:35 <dape> MMC: Should stick to current template
12:35:40 <kaz> q-
12:35:45 <dape> ... okay if they are distinct
12:36:16 <McCool> q+
12:36:33 <dape> CA: do we have control on other groups document?
12:36:41 <kaz> q+
12:36:45 <kaz> ack cr
12:36:58 <dape> ... do we need a special approval  each time?
12:37:18 <dape> MMC: depends on activity?
12:37:38 <dape> ... should make clear which task belongs to which group
12:38:10 <dape> Kaz: community groups are different groups. Chairs are responsible
12:38:32 <dape> ... if the published content is incorrect is problematic
12:38:40 <cris> q+
12:38:44 <dape> ... chairs from both groups should collaborate
12:38:51 <kaz> ack m
12:38:52 <kaz> ack c
12:38:57 <cris> q-
12:39:01 <dape> q?
12:39:16 <kaz> ack k
12:39:26 <dape> MMC: Next week chair election is closed by next week. Hence we should put it on hold for now
12:39:44 <dape> s/is closed by next week/is closed
12:40:40 <dape> MMC: PlugFest part of CG?
12:40:51 <dape> ... would vote not make it CG
12:40:58 <dape> ... should discuss that soon
12:41:12 <kaz> q+
12:41:48 <kaz> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/22-wot-marketing-minutes.html
12:43:28 <kaz> i/minutes/topic: Minutes from Feb-22 meeting - revisited/
12:43:55 <kaz> kaz: generated the HTML version minutes based on your IRC log
12:43:59 <dape> Kaz: minutes missed attendance list
12:44:12 <dape> Ege: all of us, plus P. Blum
12:44:27 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/22-wot-marketing-minutes.html
12:46:15 <dape> Ege: minutes are short, but correct.
12:46:23 <dape> ... any changes needed?
12:46:37 <dape> ... no objections -> minutes approved
12:46:43 <dape> TOPIC: Discussion Issues
12:46:54 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Jekyll PRs
12:47:01 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/148
12:47:21 <dape> Ege: contacted SteveALee, did not get any response yet
12:47:31 <dape> ... maybe she was on holiday
12:47:42 <kaz> s/148/148 Issue 148 - Jekyll Preview PRs/
12:47:49 <dape> s/SteveALee/hawna-slh
12:48:12 <dape> Ege: let's wait until she replies
12:48:25 <kaz> s|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/22-wot-marketing-minutes.html||
12:48:46 <kaz> s|https://www.w3.org/2022/02/22-wot-marketing-minutes.html|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/22-wot-marketing-minutes.html Feb-22|
12:49:26 <dape> DP: could also create a private (free) account
12:50:02 <dape> ... in case one person disappears we create yet another account
12:50:13 <dape> Ege: Yes, store script somewhere
12:51:16 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Activities Tab
12:51:22 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/216
12:51:32 <dape> Ege: "Activities" is misleading
12:52:14 <dape> MMC: brainstorm ... "work"
12:52:25 <dape> ... "meetings" vs "events"
12:53:27 <dape> ... maybe 3 pages, "Task-foces", "Events" and "Meetings"
12:53:57 <dape> ... will add my comments to issue
12:54:09 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Twitter Embedding
12:54:16 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/127
12:54:42 <dape> Ege: problem with cookie agreement
12:54:57 <dape> .. idea to put static thumbnail
12:55:28 <dape> ... don't like that because of user experience
12:55:49 <dape> ... found jekyll plugins that may help
12:55:50 <kaz> s/127/127 Issue 127 - Check if we can generate thumbnails from the latest Twitter news/
12:56:03 <cris> q+
12:56:08 <kaz> q-
12:56:34 <dape> CA: plugin run on server side?
12:56:48 <kaz> s/216/216 Issue 216 - Activities tab is misleading/
12:56:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:56:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/01-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:57:24 <dape> DP: Don't think
12:57:33 <dape> ... the content would be static
12:57:45 <dape> CA: Maybe it is static. there might be such use-cases
12:57:53 <dape> .. not sure though
12:58:25 <dape> Ege: I think CA is correct, looks like it creates static page
12:58:50 <dape> CA: We would need a GitHub action that runs regularly
12:59:26 <dape> Ege: will check this for next week and report
12:59:45 <dape> q?
12:59:54 <dape> ack cris
13:00:19 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:00:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/01-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
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