20:06:11 RRSAgent has joined #aria-at 20:06:11 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/02/24-aria-at-irc 20:06:36 rrsagent, make log public 20:06:56 MEETING: ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group 20:07:01 present+ 20:07:09 rrsagent, make minutes 20:07:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/24-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King 20:07:11 present+ 20:07:17 present+ 20:10:52 TOPIC: Merging in changes without throwing out data 20:10:57 Alyssa_G has joined #aria-at 20:11:10 present+ 20:11:28 Jes: have working prototype for a feature related to merging in new test plans 20:12:04 You can pull new version of test plan 20:12:17 and decide what to do with report. 20:15:07 Link to sandbox of new experience: 20:15:12 boaz has joined #aria-at 20:15:16 jesdaigle has joined #aria-at 20:15:19 present+ 20:15:21 https://aria-at-app-sandbox.bocoup.com/test-queue 20:31:27 Galk through experience of how new test plan versions are merged into existing report; it is in sandbox and in a prototype state 20:33:20 Jes: next step for Lewis and Isaac to review and test 20:33:27 then make adjustments. 20:37:20 Jes: The way the plans are structured, with a plan with tests inside of it, would it make sense to separate the test plans from the test plan run? 20:54:48 https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/wiki/Running-a-Test-Plan 21:03:47 rrsagent, make minutes 21:03:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/24-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King 21:04:53 regrets+ Seth 21:05:05 present+ Jes_Daigle 21:05:26 CHAIR: Matt King 21:05:36 rrsagent, make minutes 21:05:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/24-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King 21:07:43 mk: Jes can you raise an issue where we document the logic used to determine which tests data is copied to the new run? 21:07:47 Jes: yes 21:09:28 mk: So, the way the works is the test que shows a run of a test plan for specific AT/Browser. We can update teh version of the plan for that run, which essentially makes a new test run for that browser/AT and copies data from old run to new run. Optionally, the test admin can delete the old run. 21:09:40 Jes: yes 21:10:52 mk: It is the logic for copying data from old run to new run that we need to dive into. We want to do it in a way where test admin can make decisions to override the default rules that might prevent copying results from test X in old run to text X in new run. 21:11:30 The default rules might say that text X haschanged in a breaking way, but the test admin may know that it is not a breaking change. 21:12:10 We need to consider whether that new run should be flagged with a different status if the admin overrode logic to make sure the decision is verified? 21:12:38 We don't want test admins to inadvertantly introduce errors into the results. 21:13:11 Jes: we also need to discuss whether or not we will truly delete or only soft delete 21:13:19 mk: very good question 21:13:46 Boaz: will discuss with Seth and bring some considerations to table 21:14:00 TOPIC: Current test runs 21:14:46 mk: looking at select-only combo for FF/NVDA. Alyssa and Louis results have 9 conflicts. 21:15:16 Walked through how to either correct results or raise issue to ask a different person to correct results. 21:15:40 Alyssa can start working on those conflicts after Mar 7 21:15:56 Jon: started working on test guide 21:16:09 https:// 21:17:02 https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/wiki/Running-a-Test-Plan 21:17:19 Discussed when to mark the unexpected output box. 21:17:32 Jon: we don't have criteria for when to check box 21:17:40 for unexpected output. 21:18:22 Joe marked it for when NVDA said clickable on combobox. 21:18:53 Joe: we previously discussed and agreed that is actually an expected, default behavior for NVDA in certain circumstances. 21:19:07 I'll change my results where they conflict for taht reason. 21:19:26 What about where NVDA says list instead of listbox? 21:19:36 mk: Let's cover in next meeting. 21:19:43 rrsagent, make minutes 21:19:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/24-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King