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14:07:22 <kaz> meeting: WoT Plugfest/Testfest
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14:12:57 <kaz> chair: Fady
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14:13:27 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Fady_Salama, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:13:44 <McCool> topic: minutes
14:13:56 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/16-wot-pf-minutes.html
14:14:57 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
14:15:03 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
14:15:10 <kaz> s/html/html Feb-16/
14:15:18 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
14:15:22 <McCool> fs: any objections?
14:15:28 <McCool> ... no, will publish
14:16:07 <McCool> fs: agenda topics, updates
14:16:13 <McCool> mm: testing plan
14:16:42 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_23.02.2022
14:16:45 <McCool> topic: updates
14:16:54 <kaz> i/agenda topics/topic: Agenda/
14:17:15 <McCool> fs: have updated README under events/2022.03.Online
14:19:04 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:19:08 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:19:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/23-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:19:24 <kaz> i/mm: testing/topic: Testing plan/
14:19:37 <McCool> mm: overlap; want to know where testing plans should go
14:21:20 <McCool> .. propose putting somewhere global, like wot-testing/planning/TD/test-plan.md
14:21:25 <kaz> s/topic: Testing plan//
14:22:10 <kaz> i/overlap/(discussion about the wot-testing repo's structure for the upcoming Testfest/
14:22:48 <McCool> .. suggest for now we just create empty files, link to them from README for testfest event
14:23:27 <McCool> .. I can take the action to make a PR to do this
14:23:32 <kaz> q+
14:24:12 <McCool> kaz: might make sense for Michael, Fady, etc. to have more discussion about template offline
14:24:50 <McCool> topic: templates
14:24:54 <kaz> ack k
14:25:00 <McCool> kaz: would be useful to do offline and have PRs to discuss
14:25:55 <McCool> fs: have one for scenarios
14:26:05 <McCool> mm: would be useful to have one to describe implementations
14:26:13 <McCool> ... testing plan as mentioned above
14:27:02 <McCool> ... there is also an existing template for implementations
14:28:10 <McCool> fs: can use events/templates
14:28:20 <McCool> mm: not perfect, but I am ok with that
14:31:53 <McCool> mm: will have to track it down, see PR under wot-architecture
14:33:35 <McCool> ... will create a PR to get this organized...
14:37:25 <McCool> ... also need to capture the discussion about the Conexxus demo as a plugfest scenario
14:37:29 <McCool> topic: tools
14:37:45 <McCool> fs: still working on updating assertion tester, hope to finish by next week
14:38:04 <McCool> ... for TMs and TDs
14:38:18 <McCool> ... so will handle TMs, and also new assertions for new TD spec
14:38:42 <McCool> ... rather than autodetect, will require specification of what to do
14:39:39 <Ege> https://github.com/thingweb/thingweb-playground/pull/224
14:39:59 <McCool> ... in particular, don't want to misinterpret a missing @type for a TM as a TD; is in fact an error
14:41:31 <McCool> ... do we need to update the sub-repo link, or (since this was only used by my script, which is going away) just instructions on how to pick up the correct
14:42:41 <McCool> ege: suggest we delete that link to sub-repos and just have instructions
14:43:43 <McCool> ... or rather, a sub-directory with a package.json so npm install will do the right thing
14:46:01 <McCool> mm: other tools also
14:46:31 <McCool> ... some tools, and some deliverables need "live" testing
14:47:01 <McCool> ... eg security testing (eg fuzz testing for WoT TestBench) needs live instances
14:50:05 <McCool> ... and I think doing something is infinitely better than nothing
14:51:16 <McCool> ... for fuzz testing, may want to identify devices for which random input data is problematic
14:52:21 <McCool> mm: maybe for now we can just focus on a few devices and get the process down for live and security testing
14:54:30 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:54:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:54:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/23-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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