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13:40:48 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:40:48 <trackbot> Date: 23 February 2022
13:42:24 <jasonjgw> agenda+ TPAC 2022 - participant availability.
13:42:24 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements.
13:42:24 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Accessibility of Remote Meetings.
13:42:24 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.
13:42:24 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA.
13:42:44 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.chair: jasonjgw
13:42:59 <jasonjgw> prezakim, remove agendum 6
13:43:08 <jasonjgw> zakim, remove agendum 6
13:43:08 <Zakim> agendum 6, Miscellaneous topics.chair: jasonjgw, dropped
13:43:23 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
13:43:39 <jasonjgw> zakim, clear agenda
13:43:39 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:44:06 <jasonjgw> agenda+ TPAC 2022 - participant availability.
13:44:06 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements.
13:44:06 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Accessibility of Remote Meetings.
13:44:06 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.
13:44:06 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA.
13:44:12 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
13:44:22 <jasonjgw> zakim, list agenda
13:44:22 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
13:44:23 <Zakim> 1. TPAC 2022 - participant availability. [from jasonjgw]
13:44:23 <Zakim> 2. Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
13:44:23 <Zakim> 3. Accessibility of Remote Meetings. [from jasonjgw]
13:44:23 <Zakim> 4. Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
13:44:23 <Zakim> 5. Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. [from jasonjgw]
13:44:24 <Zakim> 6. Miscellaneous topics. [from jasonjgw]
13:45:10 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
13:45:14 <jasonjgw> present+
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13:52:11 <janina> agenda?
13:52:28 <janina> present+
13:53:52 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:53:52 <Zakim> Present: jasonjgw, janina
13:53:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, Joshue108, MichaelC, jasonjgw, trackbot
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14:00:50 <SteveNoble> present+
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14:02:40 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:02:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- TPAC 2022 - participant availability. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:02:45 <SteveNoble> scribe: SteveNoble
14:04:16 <SteveNoble> Who is going to TPAC?
14:04:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:04:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel will check back for the Captcha agenda items later this call.
14:05:13 <SteveNoble> janina: TPAC is week of Sept 12 in Vancouver BC
14:06:43 <SteveNoble> Scott: will need to see how travel options open closer to event
14:07:03 <SteveNoble> raja: When is it?
14:07:27 <SteveNoble> janina: Monday Sept 12, and runs through the week
14:08:21 <SteveNoble> raja: can an email be sent with this info?
14:08:33 <SteveNoble> janina: Yes, will send.
14:09:02 <jasonjgw> zakim, take up item 6
14:09:02 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:09:37 <SteveNoble> janina: Announcement - W3C planning for a reorg
14:10:45 <SteveNoble> janina: Looking at a sustainable organization to provide for continuing development of the web
14:11:57 <SteveNoble> janina: March 9 (APA hour) meeting will discuss this work
14:12:38 <SteveNoble> janina: CFC out on W3C Maturity Model
14:13:08 <SteveNoble> janina: CFC will end March 2
14:13:22 <SteveNoble> janina: Any quesions?
14:13:43 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:13:43 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- TPAC 2022 - participant availability. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:14:05 <jasonjgw> zakim, close item 1
14:14:05 <Zakim> agendum 1, TPAC 2022 - participant availability., closed
14:14:06 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:14:06 <Zakim> 2. Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
14:14:59 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Added an issue in GitHub to discuss recommendations
14:16:09 <SteveNoble> janina: Not ready to close document
14:16:56 <SteveNoble> janina: We still need approach Timed text for joint publication
14:17:30 <SteveNoble> janina: May need to add some pointers that are more on the mainstream side
14:18:06 <SteveNoble> For instance, the connection to translation subtitles is related but not exactly an accessibility issue
14:20:06 <SteveNoble> janina: XR environments may have considerations where mainstream access has common ground with accessibility issues
14:20:37 <SteveNoble> raja: In support of asking Timed text
14:21:42 <Joshue108> JS: How much has the document changed?
14:21:44 <SteveNoble> janina: May need a second wide review draft
14:22:02 <Joshue108> JS: Steve, how substantial are the changes?
14:22:18 <Joshue108> SN: We did address the 7-8 issues that were raised in Github
14:22:36 <Joshue108> Some addition research was referenced etc
14:22:48 <Joshue108> I'd say 10-15% has seen some change
14:22:53 <Joshue108> OTTOMH
14:23:02 <Joshue108> JS: Lets ask Timed text
14:23:22 <Joshue108> They may want to introduce things, and that would hit both ours and their wide review audience
14:23:38 <Joshue108> JS: We can defer our decision
14:23:50 <Joshue108> JS: <Likes the intro - this is a kerbcut>
14:24:19 <Joshue108> JS: I'd like to see this kerbcut in the abstract to include this..
14:27:51 <Joshue108> JW: Lets get those into issues
14:28:00 <Joshue108> SN: Makes sense to me
14:28:19 <Joshue108> q?
14:29:40 <Joshue108> SN: We do provide recommendations - but if useful to pull them into a summary - to underscore.
14:29:45 <Joshue108> JS: Could be useful.
14:31:26 <Joshue108> JOC: What about timeframe?
14:31:33 <Joshue108> JS: Could be end of March.
14:31:41 <Joshue108> JS: We do have CSUN in the middle.
14:33:18 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:33:18 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:34:08 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:34:08 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, jasonjgw
14:34:27 <jasonjgw> zkim, close item 2
14:34:36 <Joshue108> zakim, close item 2
14:34:36 <Zakim> agendum 2, Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements., closed
14:34:37 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:34:37 <Zakim> 3. Accessibility of Remote Meetings. [from jasonjgw]
14:34:38 <jasonjgw> zakim, close item 2
14:34:39 <Zakim> agendum 2, Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements., closed
14:34:39 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:34:39 <Zakim> 3. Accessibility of Remote Meetings. [from jasonjgw]
14:34:50 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:34:50 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Accessibility of Remote Meetings. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:35:37 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Look at a few open issues
14:36:21 <SteveNoble> scott: Worked through the COGA input
14:36:52 <SteveNoble> scott: Issue around captioning
14:37:34 <SteveNoble> scott: Sometimes captioning is an additional media
14:38:13 <SteveNoble> scott: Suggest expanding the use case of captioning
14:39:26 <SteveNoble> janina: Both seeing caption text and hearing the words is commonly known to enhance comprehension in the mainstream population
14:40:40 <SteveNoble> raja: Have some citations for general population use of captions
14:41:13 <SteveNoble> raja: 40% of Netflix users use captions
14:41:39 <SteveNoble> raja: 20% for standard TV usage
14:42:07 <SteveNoble> raja: will email these references
14:43:18 <SteveNoble> scott: Point about screen readers - comment was to expand to more mainstream use of text-to-speech
14:44:39 <SteveNoble> janina: Not sure it this expands to remote meetings
14:44:58 <Joshue108> +1 to Janina
14:45:12 <SteveNoble> Joshue108: Agree that this seems a problem
14:45:38 <Joshue108> q?
14:46:16 <SteveNoble> janina: Listening to TTS while people in a meeting are speaking is clearly difficult
14:48:47 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Example of TTS reading a slide while someone is speaking
14:50:21 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Reading a set of slides before a meeting and using TTS in that settings is a very different scenario
14:53:00 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:53:01 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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14:54:06 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Some activities have occurred in GitHub issues
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14:54:42 <scott_h> present+
14:55:50 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Will need to push these items to next week
14:56:06 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
14:56:06 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:57:08 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Open issues have been documented, and research around trust tokens continue...
14:57:25 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Further thoughts on CAPTCHA?
14:58:12 <jasonjgw> zakim, bye
14:58:12 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, SteveNoble, Lionel_Wolberger, scott_h
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14:58:22 <jasonjgw> rrsagent, make minutes
14:58:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/23-rqtf-minutes.html jasonjgw
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