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12:04:01 <kaz> meeting: WoT Marketing
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12:05:27 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#Feb._15.2C_2022
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12:08:51 <dape> kaz, do you have the host key
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12:11:10 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:12:01 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
12:12:08 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:12:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:12:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:12:22 <kaz> topic: Minutes
12:13:01 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/08-wot-marketing-minutes.html Feb-8
12:13:15 <kaz> ek: (goes through the minutes)
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12:14:40 <kaz> approved
12:14:52 <kaz> i/Minutes/scribenick: kaz/
12:15:10 <McCool> topic: PRs
12:15:11 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
12:15:15 <McCool> Pr #256
12:15:28 <kaz> i/Pr #256/subtopic: PR #256/
12:15:34 <McCool> ege: issues with tabs and windows;
12:15:40 <McCool> ... for all external links
12:15:53 <McCool> ... need to add target="_blank"
12:16:27 <McCool> ... this will open a new tab without closing the current tab
12:16:49 <McCool> ... but only for links that would leave the site
12:17:18 <kaz> i|issues with|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/256 PR 256 - Add target="_blank" to all external links|
12:17:48 <McCool> ... while I was at it, also fixed a capitalization problem, and fixed the wiki link for Industrie4.0; should point to the org, not the wiki page
12:18:00 <McCool> s/the wiki link/the link/
12:18:49 <McCool> ege: any objections?
12:18:56 <McCool> ... (none, merged)
12:19:13 <McCool> topic: issue #235
12:19:26 <McCool> ege: feedback on embedded.com article
12:19:39 <kaz> s/subtopic: PR #256//
12:19:47 <kaz> s/topic: PRs/topic: PR #256/
12:19:52 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:19:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:19:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:20:32 <McCool> ... feedback should have been hack.md, should have gotten a notification
12:20:53 <McCool> pb: do need to update the style of the example, using some tooling that they use
12:21:58 <McCool> topic: issue #247
12:22:11 <McCool> ege: this was the issue related to PR #256
12:23:26 <McCool> ... is now closed
12:23:37 <McCool> topic: issue #257
12:23:52 <McCool> dp: outdated links in discovery section
12:24:19 <McCool> topic: issue #231
12:24:39 <McCool> ege: to add description to top of each wiki page
12:24:54 <McCool> mm: all done, we can close this issue
12:24:57 <McCool> ege: (closed)
12:25:04 <McCool> topic: issue #224
12:25:21 <McCool> ege: about web thing protocol CG
12:26:00 <kaz> q+
12:26:02 <McCool> ... Ben is requesting that we add a link to this CG from the list of links to related CGs
12:26:59 <McCool> topic: WoT CG
12:28:02 <McCool> kaz: was going to send out some information on this, and the process
12:28:43 <McCool> mm: the question is whether to reopen nominations
12:29:10 <McCool> ... but since it is a CG, and Kaz is the "election official", we should let him decide procedures
12:29:14 <McCool> ... including reopen
12:30:15 <McCool> mm: should send a clear email that the process needs to be restarted from 0
12:30:24 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/community/wot/charter/ WoT CG Charter
12:32:24 <McCool> kaz: does include a procedure: see "Choosing a Chair"
12:34:54 <McCool> ... however, as McCool has mentioned, the web site is a little broken, so we will use email to run the process
12:35:06 <McCool> topic: issue #150
12:35:23 <McCool> ege: subtitles, there are some issues
12:36:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:36:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:36:39 <cris> q+
12:38:23 <McCool> ... places where the subtitle are inconsistent with the voice
12:38:28 <kaz> ack k
12:38:31 <kaz> ack c
12:38:53 <dape> q+
12:38:56 <kaz> q+
12:39:29 <McCool> mm: feel subtitles should capture intention; in some cases words were dropped or changed by accident
12:39:54 <kaz> ack k
12:39:58 <McCool> ... and as for "they/he", intention is gender-neutral language; may not be possible in all translations but that is the *intention*
12:40:36 <McCool> kaz: there are also some technical problems with overlapping subtitles, due to wrong timing
12:41:04 <dape> ack dape
12:41:10 <McCool> ege: the timing thing may have been fixed
12:41:21 <McCool> ... kaz seems to have fixed it
12:41:38 <kaz> s/it/some of them/
12:42:03 <kaz> kaz: should check the current situation and fix the remaining problems if any.
12:42:11 <kaz> i/should/scribenick: kaz/
12:42:17 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
12:42:33 <McCool> ege: the TD one does seem like a real error, the "TD" is a duplicate from the previous subtitle line
12:42:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:42:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:42:41 <McCool> mm: ok, so we should fix that one
12:44:13 <McCool> ege: what is the process?
12:44:34 <McCool> kaz: please make a PR... or do you want me to do it?
12:45:21 <McCool> kaz: is this for timing or the TD problem?
12:45:32 <McCool> ege: just the TD problem
12:46:44 <McCool> mm: suggest ege does a PR for the languages he can deal with, Kaz does JP, and we find someone for Ch
12:48:49 <kaz> q+
12:48:51 <McCool> ... although the problem MAY only exist in the English version
12:49:45 <kaz> https://www.w3.org/WoT/ig/
12:49:55 <kaz> https://www.w3.org/2021/12/wot-ig-2021.html#about
12:50:31 <McCool> topic: new issue
12:50:42 <McCool> ege: need to update IG charter link on website
12:51:03 <kaz> s/#about//
12:51:13 <McCool> issue #259 created
12:51:18 <McCool> topic: #258
12:52:32 <kaz> s/ege:/kaz:/
12:52:42 <McCool> mm: suggest we work on explainers first, then draw from that content to fix this
12:52:48 <McCool> ... also profiles are missing
12:53:14 <McCool> ege: ok... (writes comment on issue)
12:53:25 <kaz> i|feedback on emb|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/235 Issue 235 - Feedback for embedded.com article|
12:53:27 <McCool> topic: issue #148
12:53:54 <McCool> ege: regarding Jekyll preview, need to get an account via W3C
12:53:56 <kaz> i|this was the issue rel|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/247 Issue 247 - External Developer links in new tab/window|
12:54:06 <McCool> ... they have an unlimited open source account
12:54:34 <McCool> ege: so I am contacting them to sort that out
12:54:41 <McCool> topic: issue 246
12:54:47 <McCool> ege: was closed, I reopened it
12:55:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:55:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:55:55 <kaz> i|outdated links in|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/257 Issue 257 - outdated discovery links|
12:56:52 <McCool> ... need to decision to remove table from wiki, keep only version on web page
12:57:10 <kaz> i|to add desc|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/231 Add Description to Top of Each TF Wiki Page|
12:57:19 <McCool> mm: suggest send email, then make decision tomorrow in main call
12:57:37 <McCool> topic: issue #232
12:57:46 <kaz> i|about web thing protocol|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/224 Issue 224 - Add Web Thing Protocol community group|
12:57:57 <McCool> ege: this is for FAQ, would like to collect input from TFs
12:58:36 <kaz> i|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/150 Issue 150 - Imprecise Subtitles for WoT Explainer Video|
12:58:36 <McCool> mm: we may have to do this for explainers...
12:58:54 <kaz> i|subtitles, there are|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/150 Issue 150 - Imprecise Subtitles for WoT Explainer Video|
12:59:48 <McCool> topic: issue #220
12:59:55 <kaz> i|suggest we work on ex|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/258 Issue 258 - Documentation misses proper explanation of Discovery|
13:00:01 <McCool> ege: think we can close this issue....
13:00:40 <kaz> q+
13:00:58 <McCool> mm: might be good to put this info somewhere else, e.g. in the wiki or the README.md file
13:01:24 <McCool> ... suggest we "resolve" this issue by putting this material somewhere useful
13:01:35 <kaz> kaz: right. would be better to put this info on the Web pages themselves instead of this issue
13:01:39 <McCool> ege: ok, will put in the Marketing web page
13:01:41 <kaz> ack k
13:01:51 <McCool> ege: adjourn
13:03:00 <kaz> i|regarding Jekyll p|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/148 Issue 148 - Jekyll Preview PRs|
13:05:13 <kaz> i|was closed, I re|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/246 Issue 246 - Web Conference Meetings need to be updated|
13:05:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:05:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
13:06:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:06:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
13:08:37 <kaz> i|think we can close this issue|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/220 Issue 220 - Tasks of the Marketing TF|
13:10:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:10:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
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