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14:01:12 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), dmontalvo
14:01:32 <dmontalvo> Meeting: Silver Reliability
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14:02:55 <dmontalvo> Topic: Progress on method
14:02:57 <Francis_Storr> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1onytB133NRc1EXEOVPizcOqeTi70r2JUcba-LgUyKEY/edit#
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14:03:28 <dmontalvo> s/method/Natural Language of Text/
14:03:57 <dmontalvo> Francis: Changed title to "Natural Language of Text"
14:04:04 <dmontalvo> ...Based on comments
14:05:47 <dmontalvo> Daniel: Rogramming evoked programming languages instead of human language
14:06:33 <dmontalvo> Francis: This is to address comments, we can always get back to it
14:07:26 <dmontalvo> Wilco: I think we can stick with it for now
14:07:36 <dmontalvo> Francis: Daniel, did you tes the lang="french" thing with JAWS?
14:07:42 <dmontalvo> Daniel: I did, could not make it work
14:10:52 <dmontalvo> Francis: Scoring. Is this how WCAG3 would score this?
14:11:15 <dmontalvo> Wilco: It's how we'd score this. I think we could wait till scoring is more advanced
14:11:37 <dmontalvo> Wilco: We are trying to figure out chartering at this point
14:13:58 <dmontalvo> Wilco: We are in the defining phase. These exceptionss may potentially need to be reworded, and we still need to deal with what if assistive technologies don't follow the standards
14:15:03 <dmontalvo> Topic: AT has the ability but markup is wrong:
14:15:13 <dmontalvo> Wilco: Didn't JAWS work?
14:15:15 <dmontalvo> Daniel: No
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14:17:00 <dmontalvo> Wilco: To me the important thing is the end result -- that it gets pronounced
14:17:57 <dmontalvo> Wilco: ISO 3-letter code work, but ont consistently
14:18:33 <dmontalvo> ... This is why we went to IANA in ACT
14:20:28 <dmontalvo> Wilco: To me it all gets to accessibility support
14:20:48 <dmontalvo> ... IF the AT you are testing works, that's fine
14:22:54 <dmontalvo> Francis: We will put this in accessibility support
14:25:19 <dmontalvo> Topic: Comment on the word "can"
14:25:40 <dmontalvo> Wilco: We have a series of cases now. IS this word still appropriate?
14:26:19 <dmontalvo> Francis: Sounds like it is about assistive technologies instead of the page content. Does it matter?
14:26:50 <dmontalvo> Wilco: I think blocks of text should be at the beginning
14:27:12 <dmontalvo> Wilco: We will leave it
14:27:19 <dmontalvo> ... We should reword the exceptions though
14:29:55 <dmontalvo> Topic: Braille
14:30:25 <dmontalvo> Wilco: This outcome is very generic
14:30:35 <dmontalvo> ... Should we say braille and text to speech?
14:31:34 <dmontalvo> Daniel: We may want to step back also from text-to-speech
14:51:37 <dmontalvo> Wilco: We could focus this outcome specifically on speech, and then maybe write another one on braille
14:59:06 <dmontalvo> Wilco: Propose to change to "Assistive technologies using text to speech can pronounce blocks of text in their natural language" and write an outcome for braille in the future
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