19:02:28 RRSAgent has joined #auto 19:02:28 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-auto-irc 19:02:30 scribenick: ted 19:02:31 RRSAgent, make logs Public 19:02:31 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 19:02:35 Chair: Peter, Ted 19:02:39 Scribe: Ted 19:02:51 Present+ Ulf, Ashish, Carine, Erik, Isaac 19:04:28 Present+ Gunnar 19:05:37 Topic: VSSo publication 19:05:50 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-automotive/2022Feb/0000.html 19:06:12 Resolved: Publish as FPWD 19:06:52 vsso proposed shortname and vsso and vsso-core namespaces will be requested 19:08:57 Topic: Issues and Pull Requests 19:09:15 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/pulls 19:10:31 Ulf: following advice from Carine and appreciate Wonsuk's contributions for Transport and Core 19:10:40 … my view is we should merge both of them 19:10:51 … any opinions? 19:11:41 https://github.com/w3c/automotive/issues/443 19:12:26 Ulf: my thought on this issue we've discussed previously is that the added complexity of adding an additional, similar method is not worthwhile 19:12:53 … Peter expressed that Volvo isn't interested in scenario 1 nor 2, but more toward 3 19:13:50 … Sebastian saw interest, wonder if Erik has had a chance to discuss with him. we could leave open if needed or close and of course revisit if people feel strongly 19:15:15 Erik: Sebastian's comment was based on Kuksa implementation where he used the same mechanism instead of another 19:16:01 … this would be for few, specific cases 19:16:25 … would we not add anything to the spec? 19:17:04 Ulf: currently we say sensors aren't writable which we might want to change to allow for scenarios discussed 19:17:45 Erik: in VSC call yesterday, some people raised desired value for actuators and can see that logic applying to sensors 19:19:16 Ted: challenge will be wording on the flexibility 19:22:40 Gunnar: something like: when the specification is used to present signals to the outside sensors should be read only but may be writeable for internal use 19:46:07 Topic: Messaging and explainer 19:47:28 Ted: we need to sell the specs more and improve messaging, starting to brainstorm with COVESA, W3C, NXP, WindRiver, Bosch, Geotab etc 19:48:11 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Sy-JSJYyFvZliMGZsWFc2vBZAlpRxSc-OVAMVBSBi4/edit?usp=sharing 19:48:20 https://tag.w3.org/explainers/ 19:48:48 Ted: Peter kicked off explainer, made a number of proposed edits and notes on what else we need 19:55:58 s/, made/, I made/ 19:57:46 … also we need to learn of intent to implement VISSv2 or experiment further from CVII group participants. we will need a second implementation to advance in the W3C process and heard a few were considering or actively trying it 19:58:35 … I'll encourage them more by email and in slack to share with us, problem with the industry is how secretive companies are about their plans 19:59:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/15-auto-minutes.html ted