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14:58:08 <kaz> meeting: WoT Discovery
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15:01:04 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh
15:01:31 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
15:02:22 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#14_February_2022
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15:03:20 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
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15:05:41 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima, Christian_Glomb
15:05:48 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:05:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:05:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/14-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
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15:06:44 <kaz> scribenick: glomb
15:07:44 <glomb> Minutes from last meeting: https://www.w3.org/2022/02/07-wot-discovery-minutes.html
15:08:40 <kaz> chair: McCool
15:08:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:08:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/14-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:10:06 <kaz> i/Minutes f/topic: Minutes/
15:10:55 <glomb> Some corrections, approved.
15:11:31 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/275
15:12:37 <glomb> Cleans up reference, merged
15:12:58 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/264
15:13:03 <kaz> i/https/topic: PRs/
15:13:07 <glomb> Needs wide review
15:13:20 <kaz> i/275/subtopic: PR 275/
15:13:41 <glomb> mmccool - Separated the PR
15:14:27 <glomb> Unfinished sections commented out
15:14:31 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/275|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/275 PR 275 - Update Problem Details editor notes|
15:14:43 <kaz> i/264/subtopic: PR 264/
15:15:20 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/264|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/264 PR 264 - Update Security and Privacy Considerations|
15:15:25 <glomb> Added differentations between privacy and security
15:15:56 <glomb> Resulting in new section ids
15:18:13 <glomb> farshid - another issue https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/254 should also be included
15:18:28 <glomb> mmccool - will need additional PRs
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15:19:16 <glomb> farshid - and also consider issue https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/185
15:19:28 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
15:19:51 <glomb> Will be merged, having the comments in mind
15:20:06 <kaz> s/ - /: /g
15:20:12 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/269
15:20:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:20:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/14-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:20:57 <kaz> i/269/subtopic: PR 269/
15:21:23 <glomb> mmccool - Should be closed wo/ merging due to several points mentioned there - however still relevant
15:21:24 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/269|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/269 PR 269 - Permit use of TD Links for Self-Description of Multiple Endpoints|
15:22:45 <kaz> s/mmccool -/mmccool:/
15:23:09 <glomb> mmccool - Two additional PRs still need rework, keep PR freeze at 28th of February in mind
15:23:44 <kaz> s/mmccool -/mmccool:/
15:23:46 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/273
15:23:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:23:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/14-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:24:13 <glomb> mmccool - Let's create issue for last open point and try to merge
15:24:20 <kaz> i/273/subtopic: PR 273/
15:24:57 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/273|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/273 PR 273 - Things API with optional CRUD|
15:25:02 <kaz> s/mmccool -/mmccool:/
15:25:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:25:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/14-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:25:17 <glomb> farshid - Renaming of APIs to avoid confusion
15:25:57 <cris> q+
15:27:36 <glomb> farshid - Should drop "501" http error
15:28:20 <glomb> farshid - However, "404" still optional
15:29:00 <glomb> mmccool - Will save the discussion about this in an issue
15:29:38 <kaz> s/mmccool -/mmccool:/
15:29:45 <kaz> s/farshid -/farshid:/
15:29:47 <kaz> s/farshid -/farshid:/
15:31:41 <glomb> farshid - Directories must contain feature subsets such that the implementation makes sense, e.g. "create" wo/ "update" is a bit weired
15:32:10 <glomb> mmccool - Should have categories like "basic", ...
15:33:10 <kaz> s/farshid -/farshid:/
15:33:12 <kaz> s/mmccool -/mmccool:/
15:33:20 <glomb> mmccool - Should gather feedback on this PR until next week
15:36:51 <glomb> mmccool - Should have a note about "duplicates" and close the corresponding issue
15:39:24 <glomb> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/274
15:39:48 <glomb> mmccool - Requires lot of review
15:40:45 <kaz> i/274/subtopic: PR 274/
15:40:50 <glomb> Scripting API TF already discussed about it and want to give feedback
15:41:16 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/274|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/274 PR 274 - Specify Consumer Discovery Process|
15:41:28 <glomb> "D-" entities = "Discovery-" entities
15:41:34 <kaz> s/about it/it/
15:43:54 <glomb> mmccool - Several implications wrt. fetching external URLs, or downloading all TDs from a TDD
15:45:59 <glomb> mmccool - Propose to introduce new section "Discovering Clients and Consumers" in spec.
15:48:24 <glomb> mmccool - "Read TD from a file" - is that discovery?
15:49:33 <glomb> Probably not, even if it is a file URL
15:51:01 <glomb> To allow for different protocols, introduce "configurator" and "executor"
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15:52:40 <glomb> Introduction should deliver unorded set of URLs (if there are multiple TDDs)
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15:55:33 <glomb> What if directories refer to each other? - should detect and limit possible loops.
15:56:05 <glomb> farshid - Could detect via unique id
15:56:09 <kaz> s/mmccool -/mmccool:/g
15:56:12 <kaz> s/farshid -/farshid:/
15:56:14 <kaz> s/farshid -/farshid:/g
15:56:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:56:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/14-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz
15:56:44 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann
15:58:12 <glomb> mmccool - What about directories inside directories?
15:58:32 <glomb> Navigate via thing links?
15:59:22 <glomb> farshid - Can have TDD that is not hosting its TD but hosts it somewhere else
16:02:29 <glomb> @everyone - please review and comment
16:03:39 <kaz> s/farshid -/farshid:/g
16:03:43 <kaz> s/mmccool -/mmccool:/g
16:04:05 <kaz> s/@everyone -/mmccool: everyone,/
16:04:12 <kaz> [adjourned]
16:04:12 <glomb> Adjourned
16:04:23 <kaz> s/[adjourned]//
16:04:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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