IRC log of i18n on 2022-02-10
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- Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 10 February 2022
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- agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/5e4758ba-3e80-4e71-b333-5f2c4fd95abd/20220210T150000
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- clear agenda
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- agenda+ Agenda Review
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- agenda+ Action Items
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- agenda+ Info Share
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- agenda+ RADAR Review
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- agenda+ Review 'Pending' issues
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- agenda+ Explainer for TAG and ES-402
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- agenda+ AOB?
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- Chair: Addison Phillips
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/10-i18n-minutes.html addison
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- present+
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- present+ Atsushi
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- present+ Eemeli
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- present+ Bert
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- present+ Richard
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- scribe+
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- zakim, take up agendum 2
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- agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:05:07 [addison]
- https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
- 15:05:32 [Bert]
- action-925?
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- action-925 -- Addison Phillips to Update string-meta to include json-ld changes, etc. -- due 2020-07-09 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/925
- 15:06:14 [Bert]
- addison: Fixing links in string meta. Could merge soon.
- 15:06:42 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/string-meta/pull/56
- 15:07:13 [Bert]
- ... building up in the pull request ^^, some edits that r12a and I reviewed.
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- present+ JcK
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- ... merge it after this call?
- 15:07:49 [addison]
- action: addison: ping felix
- 15:07:49 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1114 - Ping felix [on Addison Phillips - due 2022-02-17].
- 15:08:11 [Bert]
- action-1094?
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- action-1094 -- Addison Phillips to Start conversation with ecma-402 et al about webidl work -- due 2021-11-11 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1094
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- addison: Getting closer.
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- action-1104?
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- action-1104 -- Addison Phillips to Respond to dom's thread after xfq forwards note -- due 2021-12-09 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1104
- 15:09:07 [Bert]
- r12a: plh asked me to connect Addison and Dom.
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- action-1109?
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- action-1109 -- Addison Phillips to Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions -- due 2022-01-27 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1109
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- action-1113?
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- action-1113 -- Addison Phillips to Clean up linking on specdev -- due 2022-02-10 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/1113
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:10:59 [Bert]
- JcK: With new systems, if you say we should look at string meta explainer, where do I find it?
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- addison: I should have added the link...
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- JcK: And in the general case?
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- eemeli: I'm going to present in ECMA forum.
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- addison: Glad to see that.
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- zakim, take up agendum 4
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- agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
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- i/eemeli/subtopic: ECMA
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- addison: New request for css-variables. Anybody?
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- addison: I'll take it myself.
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- addison: NAUR?
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- Bert: not yet
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- addison: font transfer?
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- atsushi: Can move to completed.
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- addison: Can you edit a comment to say there are ni issues?
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- addison: IMSC-HRM: I filed comments.
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- r1
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- s/r1//
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- addison: Anybody apart form Behdad we can talk to?
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- f/form/from/
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 5
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- agendum 5 -- Review 'Pending' issues -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:19:34 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/607
- 15:21:02 [Bert]
- addison: Starting from the oldest...
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- ... is this stale? I think they did some work on it.
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- r12a: Can't remember, but why don't we close it.
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- addison: Contact them?
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- action: addison: investigate input type=email status
- 15:22:14 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1115 - Investigate input type=email status [on Addison Phillips - due 2022-02-17].
- 15:22:59 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1021
- 15:23:34 [Bert]
- addison: Seems to have an issue already, so shouldn't be "pending".
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1358
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- addison: Not in the right repo?
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- r12a: I remember was looking for a place.
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- action: richard: follow up on issue 1358
- 15:25:05 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1116 - Follow up on issue 1358 [on Richard Ishida - due 2022-02-17].
- 15:25:16 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1370
- 15:25:48 [Bert]
- addison: Appears to have an issue, so not "pending" anymore.
- 15:26:52 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1371
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- addison: Does have an issue as well.
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- r12a: But not an i18n label on that issue.
- 15:28:09 [Bert]
- ... So we should ask plh why that repo is not enabled for i18n labels.
- 15:28:21 [addison]
- action: richard: contact plh to add horizontal review labels et al in a11y-discov-vocab
- 15:28:22 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1117 - Contact plh to add horizontal review labels et al in a11y-discov-vocab [on Richard Ishida - due 2022-02-17].
- 15:29:38 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1411
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- r12a: Looks like one we didn't send yet.
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- addison: Objection to sending the comment?
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1412
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- r12a: If we know there is something else going on, we should maybe mention that to them.
- 15:31:44 [atsushi]
- related issue to #1411? -> https://github.com/w3c/secure-payment-confirmation/issues/93
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- addison: If only there were a message format in JS that was localizable...
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- ... Send this?
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- r12a: Yes.
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- atsushi: I wonder if @@
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- addison: Also related to next issue.
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1413
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- addison: Send this?
- 15:35:52 [atsushi]
- total dictionaly is defined as PaymentItem which has DOMString as label: https://w3c.github.io/payment-request/#dom-paymentitem
- 15:35:58 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1418
- 15:36:28 [Bert]
- addison: I will send the issues to payment.
- 15:37:31 [Bert]
- r12a: This (#1418) was raised by the w3cbot.
- 15:38:04 [Bert]
- ... Just remove the "pending" label.
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- addison: There was a comment from Travis, but not sure he is right.
- 15:39:23 [Bert]
- ... Fuqiao not here today, but shall we ask him to follow up?
- 15:39:38 [addison]
- action: xfq: follow up on https://github.com/WICG/canvas-formatted-text/issues/36 (ask addison for details)
- 15:39:39 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-1118 - Follow up on https://github.com/wicg/canvas-formatted-text/issues/36 (ask addison for details) [on Fuqiao Xue - due 2022-02-17].
- 15:39:54 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1428
- 15:40:02 [atsushi]
- s/@@/label 'total' is not defined in SRC spec but something other/
- 15:40:34 [Bert]
- addison: Just remove "pending"?
- 15:40:37 [Bert]
- r12a: yes
- 15:40:41 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1445
- 15:41:27 [Bert]
- addison: Same status as one before: it has an issue. I'll remove "pending".
- 15:42:12 [addison]
- action: richard: issue 1445 links to wrong spec, talk to plh about it
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- Created ACTION-1119 - Issue 1445 links to wrong spec, talk to plh about it [on Richard Ishida - due 2022-02-17].
- 15:42:26 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1458
- 15:43:19 [Bert]
- addison: I reacted to that one, so we can remove "pending".
- 15:43:27 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1462
- 15:44:42 [Bert]
- r12a: I wasn't sure what the commenter was asking for. Probably just wait, remove the labels and track it as normal.
- 15:44:53 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1463
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- s/commenter/commenter on 1462/7587/
- 15:45:50 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1464
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- r12a: Same as previous one.
- 15:46:55 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1413
- 15:46:56 [Bert]
- atsushi: about #1413
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- ... no, #1412
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- addison: The comment is that there is a label, in English, without metadata.
- 15:49:22 [Bert]
- ... or should we just deprectae this comment (on payment-confirmation) and work on payment-request instead?
- 15:49:37 [Bert]
- s/deprectae/deprecate/
- 15:49:54 [Bert]
- ... Do you want to suggest some wording?
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- atsushi: No.
- 15:50:41 [Bert]
- r12a: Going back to the <rb> element
- 15:51:13 [Bert]
- ... Fantasai and Florian are working on i18n stuff
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- ... They may have to deal with this.
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- addison: I heard that all browsers support ruby, so the fallback to plaintext not needed. And can style with CSS.
- 15:52:56 [Bert]
- r12a: I'm not intervening until those guys come with something.
- 15:53:21 [addison]
- zakim, take up agtendum 6
- 15:53:21 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'take up agtendum 6', addison
- 15:53:26 [addison]
- https://github.com/aphillips/i18n-discuss/blob/gh-pages/explainers/string-meta-explainer.md
- 15:53:43 [Bert]
- zakim, take up agendum 6
- 15:53:43 [Zakim]
- agendum 6 -- Explainer for TAG and ES-402 -- taken up [from agendabot]
- 15:54:21 [Bert]
- addison: I welcome contributions. I added the comments we made last time.
- 15:55:01 [Bert]
- r12a: How much are you still going to change it? So I don't read it too early.
- 15:55:26 [Bert]
- addison: Let's target next Thursday, so Thursday in 2 weeks we can discuss.
- 15:56:47 [Bert]
- Discussion about readability of agenda in calendar.
- 15:58:01 [Bert]
- r12a: Maybe put the non-ordinary items at the top...
- 15:58:17 [Bert]
- addison: I'll make it useful and beautiful :-)
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- zakim, take up agendum 7
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- agendum 7 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
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- No other business.
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- Zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Atsushi, JcK, Richard, Bert, David, Erik, Nordin, Eemeli
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/10-i18n-minutes.html Zakim
- 15:59:29 [Zakim]
- I am happy to have been of service, Bert; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/02/10-i18n-minutes.html addison