IRC log of pronunciation on 2022-02-02
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- Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 02 February 2022
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- Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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- Agenda+ Action Items
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- Agenda+ Github Issues
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- Agenda+ Other Business
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/track/actions/open
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- Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 02 February 2022
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- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/110437/PronunciationNewTime
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- Please complete the survey for our new meeting time.
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
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- mhakkinen: while at ATIA and doing our presentation I learned that college board will join W3C in the near future and officially join this TF
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- janina: awesome!
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- mhakkinen: and we may also be hearing from Sara Wood as an invited expert. She also presented at ATIA.
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- Irfan: While in Colorado, we met Patrick Sullivan who has inquired about joining the TF as an invited expert.
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- janina: Roy won't be around to advance those applications until he's back from vacation.
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- janina: TPAC dates have been published. It will be Sept 12-16 in Vanouver, BC (hybrid).
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- mhakkinen: my experience going to an in-person conference was underwhelming. The attendance wasn't great at ATIA. We had four participants in the meeting room and there was no equipment for streaming or recording.
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- mhakkinen: "not all the rooms were equipped"
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- mhakkinen: this information wasn't available to the speakers or the attendees. I did record it on my iPhone.
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- janina: re: TPAC it's purpose is for cross-group meetings to remove blockers. For instance, in this group if we're still discussing the ARIA proposal, we could have that conversation.
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- janina: sometimes we can also try to work through a lot of work of our own.
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- agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from PaulG]
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- Irfan: I've completed the survey but I'm still working on the markdown page in Github
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- https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/101
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- janina: isn't this just a way to deal with ambiguous language/content?
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- https://github.com/github/time-elements
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- 4. Other Business [from PaulG]
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- SteveNoble_: I have been tasked with finding a research base to support SSML for comprehension.
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- SteveNoble_: if you have a TTS application and it has better pronunciation it increases user comprehension.
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- SteveNoble_: this is very different from assessment content.
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- SteveNoble_: if anyone is aware of scientific research like this please share.
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- mhakkinen: I would look forward to hearing from Sara Wood who has talked about the lack of research on TTS>
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- mhakkinen: attention demands may be higher when there's less than perfect speech
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- I would expect user familiarity and cognitive or neurological disability to have large effect on speed and comprehension.
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- janina: on list I've heard younger TTS users preferring a TTS engine over a voice actor. Which surprised me. I've always preferred a human reader.
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- https://chinese.yabla.com/chinese-english-pinyin-dictionary.php?define=%E4%BA%91&limit=1000
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- https://www.trainchinese.com/v2/wordDetails.php?rAp=0&wordId=38970&tcLanguage=en
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calque
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- https://www.getblend.com/blog/calque-loan-translation/
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