IRC log of rqtf on 2022-01-26
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 26 January 2022
- 13:51:24 [jasonjgw]
- chair: jasonjgw
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- present+
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- agenda+ Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA.
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- agenda+ Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements.
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- agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
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- zakim, list agenda
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- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
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- 1. Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. [from jasonjgw]
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- 2. Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
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- 3. Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
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- 4. Miscellaneous topics. [from jasonjgw]
- 13:52:05 [janina]
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- regrets?
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- regrets: Scott_Hollier, Lionel_Wolberger
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- present+
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- present+
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 14:05:21 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Lionel sent regrets...but we can look at CAPTHCA briefly
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- janina: Lionel had comments per Issue 16
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- janina: The discussion of trust tokens
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- janina: There were comments going back to 2020, so this has been in the works a bit
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- janina: We need more background info that we hope Lionel will be able to provide
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 14:13:08 [Joshue108]
- SN: I have text written and ready to go
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- JOC: Was struggling with Github a little
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- q+
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- SN: <Describes issues with GH>
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- ack me
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- JOC: I'm happy to help Steve, if you want to set up a call with me.
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- <Further team Github confusion discussion>
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- JW: Any other issues?
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- SN: I've gotten the text ready to go and get it into Github - will chat with Josh
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- JW: Any other comments?
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- SN: Nothing from me
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- q?
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- JS: I've an action to talk with Timed Text.
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- JOC: What about timeline for SAUR?
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- Josh: asks whether we have a timeline.
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- JS:Hope to do that in Feb - we need to discuss messaging.
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- <Discussion on messaging>
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- We do have messaging but it will need to be updated.
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- JS: Mentions last call
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- JW: The changes are substantive.
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- JW: Can we use the previous version?
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- JS: Yup
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- JOC: Sounds good
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- SN: +1
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- JOSH: To help with format of messaging
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- JW: We will adapt it etc
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- JS: We need to mention that we got good responses and the changes are incorporated.
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- Also we need to mention why this is important - for tools, standards etc
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- If this is a joint publication also is a factor.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- Joshue108: Has labeled all the issues
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- Joshue108: Already discusses the issues related to personalization
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- https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/279
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- [COGA] 2.6.2 Giving Users Enough Time to Interact
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- #279
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- q+
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- Joshue108: User need 20 - ample time to respond in a system dialogue
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- Joshue108: Request for a new requirement
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- Joshue108: To add an audio notification when the mic is active
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- jasonjgw: Not sure how this related to lime limits
- 14:31:00 [janina]
- ack ja
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- jasonjgw: time limits
- 14:33:15 [Joshue108]
- ack jan
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- janina: Example - Amazon devices with and without screens respond differently
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- JS: This is lacking clarity
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- JOC: I'm also not sure how this request fits into the user need.
- 14:34:29 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: An auditory indicator while a mic is on seems like interference
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- Joshue108: Commenter suggested ample time when forming a verbal response
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- janina: Reflected on current devices do not provide for long pauses between words
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- jasonjgw: Can look at this to see if it should go into the section on speech
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- Janina: Something about allowing for different speech patters
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- jasonjgw: Sometimes the recognition of a second utterance is dependent upon the context of the first utterance
- 14:42:07 [Joshue108]
- JOC: Here is the new issue Speech and articulation rate #294
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- https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/294
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- <discussion around automatic timeouts>
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- Joshue108: Commenter suggested removing the timeout requirement altogether
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- janina: Voice response systems need to have a timeout function
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- jasonjgw: We need to clarify this
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- jasonjgw: Will look at this
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- Joshue108: 19D seems to have vanished
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- Joshue108: Looks like this was changed to 20D
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- Joshue108: The reminder about system waiting for a response
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- jasonjgw: There are different needs for different users
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- jasonjgw: We'll need to look at this in more detail
- 14:53:59 [Joshue108]
- [COGA] 2.6.2 Giving Users Enough Time to Interact #279
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- https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/279
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- [COGA] 2.6.1 Understanding How to Interact with the Interface #278
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- Joshue108: Comment mentioned that Users who need this will find it difficult to discover accessibility settings
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- jasonjgw: Important to remember that we still need a lot of AI research to do these sorts of things
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, SteveNoble, Joshue
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