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12:02:39 <kaz> meeting: WoT Marketing
12:02:52 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan
12:03:38 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#Jan._18.2C_2022
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12:05:45 <dape> scribeNick: dape
12:06:09 <dape> TOPIC: previous minutes
12:06:15 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/01/18-wot-marketing-minutes.html
12:07:33 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:07:46 <dape> Ege: <summarizes topics>
12:08:18 <dape> ... any remarks?
12:08:47 <dape> ... no objections -> minutes approved
12:08:54 <dape> TOPIC: Pull Requests
12:09:12 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Past events:
12:09:19 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/249
12:09:28 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool
12:09:30 <dape> Ege: proposed to collapse list
12:09:37 <dape> ... DP  worked on PR
12:10:35 <kaz> s/249/249 PR 249 - feat: make appear older entries only on request/
12:10:45 <dape> MMC: ITU event is not on the list, will create issue
12:11:01 <kaz> s/Past events/PR 249: Past events/
12:11:10 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:11:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:11:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/25-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
12:11:35 <dape> Ege: PR#249 looks good
12:11:46 <dape> ... no objections -> merged
12:12:05 <dape> TOPIC: Easy Issues
12:12:27 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Meeting times
12:12:39 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/233 https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/246
12:13:32 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/246|Issue 233 - [Reminder] Update Arch Telecon time on wiki/website|
12:13:50 <dape> Ege: Editors and chairs call, Architecture,  Profile call
12:13:59 <dape> q+
12:14:07 <kaz> i|Editors|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/246 Issue 246 - Web Conference Meetings need to be updated|
12:14:17 <kaz> ack d
12:15:28 <dape> DP: Suggest to point to wiki..
12:15:47 <dape> MMC: Suggest we split calendar off on its own page
12:16:29 <dape> Ege: like the web page option.. with timezone selector
12:16:51 <dape> MMC: Alternative is to use web page
12:16:56 <dape> ... get rid of wiki page
12:17:10 <kaz> q+
12:17:22 <dape> Kaz: Either was is fine
12:17:31 <kaz> ack k
12:17:31 <dape> ... question is "who" can maintain it
12:17:37 <kaz> s/was/option/
12:18:21 <dape> MMC: Mostly Kaz maintains wiki pages
12:19:25 <dape> Ege: all editors have access rights to merge
12:19:50 <kaz> q+
12:20:26 <dape> Ege: Proposal: remove wiki page and use web-page
12:20:59 <dape> Kaz: Suggest to use W3C calendar option
12:21:31 <kaz> s/option/option in that case/
12:21:43 <kaz> ack k
12:21:57 <dape> MMC: embedding calendar on web-page would be nice
12:22:25 <kaz> s/"who" can maintain/"who" would maintain/
12:22:26 <dape> Kaz: PLH shared guidelines for calendar
12:22:40 <dape> q+
12:23:57 <dape> DP: suggest to add link to wiki calendar for now
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12:24:12 <dape> MMC: Sounds good. Will take a look at W3C calendar anyway
12:24:15 <kaz> i|suggest|-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2021JulSep/0038.html PLH's guideline on the W3C Calendar (Member-only)|
12:24:20 <kaz> q?
12:24:23 <kaz> ack dape
12:24:54 <dape> Ege: prefer to keep web page version
12:25:07 <kaz> s/to keep/keeping the/
12:26:10 <dape> Ege: 3 options
12:26:20 <dape> .... updaet/keep web-page
12:26:30 <dape> s/updaet/update
12:26:36 <kaz> q+
12:26:42 <dape> ... remove web-page and keep wiki
12:26:50 <dape> ... use W3C calendar
12:27:58 <dape> Kaz: see guidelines, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2021JulSep/0038.html
12:28:39 <dape> Ege: will update web page
12:29:09 <Ege> q?
12:29:12 <kaz> ack k
12:29:53 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/wot/calendar
12:31:38 <dape> MMC: we have different calendars, WG, CG et cetera
12:31:49 <dape> ... will play with it having one or several calendars
12:33:36 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
12:33:38 <dape> TOPIC: Discussion Issues
12:33:47 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Jekyll PRs
12:33:51 <kaz> s/calendar/calendar WoT-WG calendar/
12:33:55 <dape> ->  https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/148
12:34:15 <dape> Ege: We are looking for PR preview
12:36:34 <dape> MMC: Temporary URL for each PR
12:37:20 <kaz> q+
12:37:28 <dape> Ege: Looked at various options
12:37:39 <dape> ... e.g., render
12:38:39 <dape> ... I had issues because of missing files
12:38:44 <dape> q+
12:39:05 <McCool> q+
12:39:30 <kaz> -> https://wot-jp-cg.netlify.app/#/about?id=web-of-things%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6 WoT-JP CG page
12:39:59 <kaz> ack k
12:39:59 <dape> Kaz: Japanese group is using Netlify service also
12:40:09 <kaz> s/group/CG/
12:42:14 <dape> DP: alternative for GH is dedicate branch
12:42:19 <McCool> ack m
12:42:53 <dape> Ege: One downside with render, we need to use *private* GitHub repo
12:43:17 <dape> ... It is just me being able to change
12:43:40 <dape> s/*private* GitHub repo/*private* account
12:44:33 <dape> MMC: I think we need to play with all these options to find a good solution
12:44:55 <dape> TOPIC: ITU-T event
12:45:18 <dape> MMC: Kaz, myself and Sebastian are presenting WoT material
12:45:37 <dape> Kaz: plan to re-use slides that I presented for IoT EXPO
12:46:43 <dape> MMC: I have checked-in the slides on GitHub
12:46:53 <dape> ... added discovery slides
12:46:57 <dape> ... added use-cases
12:47:14 <kaz> i|Kaz, my|-> https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/webinars/20220203/Pages/default.aspx Architecting the Web of Things Webinar
12:48:03 <dape> DP: angle vs curly brackets
12:48:05 <dape> MMC: Correct
12:49:27 <dape> MMC: slide 5: Usage patterns overview
12:50:15 <dape> MMC: slide 6: scripting differences
12:50:19 <dape> ... maybe DP can send update
12:50:37 <dape> MMC: slide 7: discovery
12:51:21 <dape> MMC: 20 minutes talk and 14 slides
12:51:46 <dape> ... talk about uses cases on slide#10
12:52:50 <dape> ... use-cases relevant to smart cities on slide #12
12:53:24 <dape> ... health, energy, building and retail
12:54:16 <dape> ... new slide#13, pictures from Takenaka, Siemens, Netzo
12:55:18 <dape> MMC: Need to ask whether we can use these pictures
12:55:42 <dape> Ege: Can ask Netzo
12:55:46 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/PRESENTATIONS/2022-02-WoT-ITU-T-McCool.pdf
12:56:16 <dape> Kaz: we can also ask which picture .. in the case of Takenaka
12:56:55 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/PRESENTATIONS/2021-10-online-f2f/2021-10-11-WoT-OpenDay-Takenaka-Kasuya.pdf FYI, Takenaka's presentation during TPAC
12:57:24 <dape> MMC: slide#14 speaks about gaps and discussion
12:58:06 <dape> ... thanks for the proposed fixes
12:58:32 <dape> ... need to clarify picture rights
12:59:01 <dape> Ege: [adjourned]
12:59:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:59:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/25-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz