IRC log of silver-reliability on 2022-01-25

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Wilco

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14:04:27 [dmontalvo]

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14:08:44 [Wilco]

Francis: What's the status from Janina?

14:09:25 [Wilco]

Wilco: Haven't had a response from the pronunciation chairs.

14:09:58 [Wilco]

Francis: We haven't managed to get any solid research. It's been people's opinions. If they have something that would be useful.

14:10:56 [Wilco]

Jeanne: If we're working on blocks, pronunciation is not to the point.

14:12:26 [Wilco]

Wilco: I put some comments at the top of the document

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... If a screen reader doesn't have the language, it doesn't need to pronounce it.

14:17:46 [Wilco]

Jeanne: Latin is a special case, as it's pronunciation is comes from another language.

14:23:13 [Wilco]

Wilco: Latin seems like an interesting edge case, as preferred pronunciation depends on the reader

14:24:11 [Wilco]

... Isn't the point that there's no defined pronunciation?

14:24:37 [Wilco]

Daniel: There may not be just one pronunciation.

14:25:21 [Wilco]

Francis: What happens then with something like Klingon?

14:25:38 [Wilco]

Wilco: There is usually a pronunciation for fictional languages.

14:33:12 [Wilco]

Jeanne: Is there a problem in screen readers pronouncing it in the default language?

14:33:22 [Wilco]

Wilco: Do all screen readers have a default language?

14:38:44 [Wilco]

Wilco: Would there be a problem if I had a latin page with lang="ja"

14:39:03 [Wilco]

Jeanne: If they spoke Japanese that would make sense, but if they learned Latin from an English teacher it would be a problem

14:39:35 [jeanne]

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/218/218-h/218-h.htm#link2H_4_0001

14:41:42 [Wilco]

Francis: I agree to using the default pronunciation.

14:42:07 [Wilco]

Daniel: For blocks there may not be a need, but for the page there should be a lang code.

14:48:08 [Wilco]

Wilco: So preferred pronunciation is required for Latin, forcing it to use English is an issue.

14:52:01 [Wilco]

Wilco: Since there is (from what I've heard) no Czech speech in IOS, does that mean you can't use Czech text in IOS?

14:52:29 [Wilco]

Francis: Seems like it shouldn't.

14:53:23 [Wilco]

Francis: What about if it comes from a niche feature in one particular screen reader?

14:59:26 [Wilco]

Wilco: What about lang="English". It is not a standardised way to indicate language, but in theory assistive technologies could support it.

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zakim, end meeting

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As of this point the attendees have been Wilco, dmontalvo

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RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/25-silver-reliability-minutes.html Zakim

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I am happy to have been of service, Wilco; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye

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15:34:34 [Wilco]

RRSAgent, bye

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