13:02:23 RRSAgent has joined #wot 13:02:23 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-irc 13:02:27 meeting: WoT-IG/WG 13:02:50 ryuichi has joined #wot 13:03:08 cris_ has joined #wot 13:03:13 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#19_January_2022 13:03:42 brb 13:03:42 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Michael_Koster 13:03:46 s/brb// 13:04:50 McCool_ has joined #wot 13:05:07 dape has joined #wot 13:05:07 dsr_ has joined #wot 13:05:40 present+ Michael_Lagally, Daniel_Peintner 13:05:56 https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#19_January_2022 13:05:57 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 13:07:07 matsuda has joined #wot 13:08:09 scribenick: Ege 13:09:17 topic: Minutes review 13:09:20 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:09:31 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/01/12-wot-minutes.html Jan-12 13:09:37 Mizushima has joined #wot 13:09:51 rrsagent, make log public 13:09:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:09:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:10:01 scribeick: kaz 13:10:14 mm: (goes through the minutes) 13:10:52 approved 13:11:00 s/scribeick/scribenick/ 13:11:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:11:04 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:11:25 Ege has joined #wot 13:11:36 topic: Editors call 13:11:54 mm: need to think about the updated publication schedule 13:12:09 ... also new doodle is ongoing to find a better slot 13:12:20 -> https://doodle.com/poll/twqrcisqgrmukpan?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link doodle 13:12:48 sk: would prefer Tuesday 13:13:14 mm: Tuesday at 6am ET then 13:13:22 mm: let's propose to move editor's call to tuesday 6am eastern, right before the marketing call 13:13:43 i/let's/scribenick: Ege/ 13:13:48 proposal: move editor's call to tuesday 6am eastern, right before the marketing call 13:15:05 proposal: move editor's call to tuesday 6am eastern / 11am UTC, right before the marketing call 13:15:17 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch 13:15:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:15:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:15:26 proposal: move editor's call to tuesday 6am eastern / 11am UTC, right before the marketing call, starting Jan 25 13:15:33 dsr_ has joined #wot 13:15:39 resolution: move editor's call to tuesday 6am eastern / 11am UTC, right before the marketing call, starting Jan 25 13:15:59 Chair: McCool/Sebastian 13:16:38 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:16:38 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:16:43 mm: after talking with michael lagally I have put proposed dates for schedule 13:16:57 ... we have already missed some deadlines 13:17:23 ... wide review can start anytime, we do not need feature freeze 13:18:43 mlagally_ has joined #wot 13:18:43 mm: it is proposed to delay the testfest by one month, so everything else as well 13:18:49 q+ 13:18:53 ... it is a PR so anyone can add comments 13:19:14 q? 13:19:32 q+ 13:19:39 ack m 13:19:49 ml: I would like to comment 13:20:02 ... it is confusing if you think in the context 13:20:58 ... we need to push 6 weeks since we have delayed everything by 6 weeks 13:22:20 (see comment on the PR 1010 by mmccool that has michael lagally comments) 13:23:04 mm: do we want to do the testfest for td and discovery and do profiles later 13:23:16 s/later/later?/ 13:26:53 mm: what is a realistic time for the next testfest and backtrack from that 13:27:02 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:27:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:27:51 i/after talking with m/topic: Updated publication timeline/ 13:27:51 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:27:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:29:13 i|see comment on|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1010 PR 1010 - proposed updates to WG extension schedule| 13:32:13 q? 13:32:44 sk: is the feature freeze for profile really realistic for end of Jan. ? 13:33:10 mm: we had discussions on this in the profile call 13:37:15 kaz: we should generate the assertions after doing the consistency check 13:37:59 q+ 13:38:03 ack k 13:41:04 q+ 13:41:10 s/we should generate the assertions after doing the consistency check/please remember that we need to wrap-up the document consistency check among all the 4 normative specs (=all the normative sections' descriptions within the 4 specs are consistent and nothing is missing) as the basis of further discussion. so we need to finalize that first. if those 4 specs are not consistent, it wouldn't make sense to extract assertions. however, we've already started 13:41:10 to extract assertions from the specs, so we need to generate the assertions again after finalizing the consistency check./ 13:41:41 topic: WoT-JP CG update 13:41:54 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:41:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:41:59 q? 13:42:14 ack m 13:42:20 ack s 13:42:35 q+ 13:43:04 sk: kajimoto-san published an article on linkedin about wot 13:43:27 https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kazuo-kajimoto-24224742_web-of-things-wot-as-iot-standard-in-smart-activity-6889152346018983936-nJn6 13:44:19 kaz: kajimoto-san has been working with mizushima-san in the WoT JG and then they will bring the consolidation point to the use case call 13:45:02 ack k 13:47:05 ml: what about the WoT CG 13:47:10 mm: we will come to that 13:47:14 topic: publications 13:47:44 kaz: use case publication should be automatic 13:48:24 i/kajimoto-san pu/mizu: 2nd kick-off event on Jan-28, several more events on outreach also planned. btw, would like to know how to update the marketing page with those events./ 13:48:54 i/kajimoto-san pu/dp: can update the marketing page if you let me know about the event./ 13:48:58 i/kajimoto-san pu/mizu: will do/ 13:49:17 s/automatic/done using the automatic pub tool, Echidna./ 13:49:31 present+ Fady_Salama 13:49:50 mm: how is the process in the TD 13:50:07 i/use case/subtopic: Use Case Note/ 13:50:07 proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the TD1.1 document as an updated WD. 13:50:08 sk: there are two discussion level PRs that can be done after WD 13:50:14 i/how is/subtopic: TD/ 13:50:16 ... otherwise some PRs that are mostly editorial 13:50:27 q+ 13:50:45 q+ 13:51:57 kaz: do we want to make resolution in this call 13:54:11 proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the TD1.1 document as an updated WD. This does not preclude additional PRs under discussion prior to CR. 13:54:12 kaz: I thought you wanted to make a resolution in the TF call 13:55:00 [[ 13:55:02 McCool: TD will discuss remaining issues and make the TF resolution today, then WG resolution during the main call next Wednesday. Is that OK? 13:55:05 ]] 13:55:11 I/topic: WoT-JP CG update/topic: WoT-JP CG update Mizushima: The second kick-off meeting will be held on January 28th in Japan. And we are also planning an outreach event for the publishing industry./ 13:55:18 is recorded in https://www.w3.org/2022/01/12-wot-minutes.html#t14 13:56:49 proposal: publish the current editor's draft of the TD1.1 document as an updated WD. This does not preclude additional PRs under discussion prior to CR. 13:57:03 q+ 13:57:07 ack k 13:58:27 s/I thought you wanted to make a resolution in the TF call/I thought you wanted to make a resolution in the TF call but do we want to make a WG resolution without making a TF resolution? That's also fine, though./ 13:58:58 ack k 13:59:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:59:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:00:50 resolution: publish the current editor's draft of the TD1.1 document as an updated WD. This does not preclude additional PRs under discussion prior to CR. 14:02:05 i/proposal: publish the current/sk: yes, would like to publish the updated WD/ 14:02:48 topic: WoT CG 14:03:07 mm: the candidates for the CG Chairs should join the CG 14:03:19 q+ 14:03:29 topic: TF description for each TF wiki 14:03:38 mm: main call wiki is also updated 14:04:11 https://www.w3.org/WoT/activities/tf-marketing/ has description 14:04:38 mm: we got a ping from ITU-T SG20. They asked for our final presentation 14:04:49 q+ 14:05:14 i/we got/topic: Liaison/ 14:05:23 i/we got/subtopic: ITU-T SG20/ 14:05:28 q+ 14:05:33 mm: any other updates on liaisons? 14:05:35 ack ml 14:06:35 ml: it would be good to talk about use cases, architecture guidelines 14:07:14 mm: if you have some slides, you can send them to me 14:09:54 ack k 14:10:29 kaz: this webinar will be a panel, so I'm asking the organizer if we can really use 15m, 15m, 30m for each 14:11:03 ack d 14:11:29 subtopic: OPC UA 14:11:39 sk: let you know once get further updates 14:11:40 q+ 14:12:17 ml: I have some slides from the IEEE contribution 14:13:00 subtopic: OGC 14:13:09 ml: will have discussion during the Use Case call 14:13:15 s/ml:/mm:/ 14:13:31 mm: there is a draft from ogc about geolocaiton that I am reading now 14:13:58 ... I also want to report on how home assistant works which is for smart homes 14:14:17 subtopic: ECHONET 14:14:33 kaz: Matsuda-san has put ECHONET Plugfest summary under RESULTS 14:14:43 topic: Testing call 14:14:52 mm: will we have a Testing call today? 14:14:54 fs: yes 14:15:07 topic: AOB? 14:15:19 sk: webhooks discussion during the TD call? 14:15:23 ml: will join 14:15:45 [adjourned; 5-min break and then Testing call] 14:16:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:16:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:18:10 i/would like to publish the/scribenick: kaz/ 14:18:25 i/we got a ping from/scribenick: Ege/ 14:18:37 i/this webinar will/scribenick: kaz/ 14:19:00 i/I have/scribenick: Ege/ 14:19:09 i/will have discussion/scribenick: kaz/ 14:19:20 i/there is a draft from/scribenick: Ege/ 14:19:32 i/Matsuda-san/scribenick: kaz/ 14:19:41 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:19:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:20:38 i/some slides from/scribenick: Ege/ 14:20:39 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:20:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:22:01 i/2nd kick-off event on Jan/scribenick: kaz/ 14:22:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:22:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:22:46 i/kajimoto-san published an/scribenick: Ege/ 14:22:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:22:48 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/19-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:30:15 Mizushima has left #wot