13:00:31 RRSAgent has joined #dpvcg 13:00:31 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/01/12-dpvcg-irc 13:01:28 ScribeNick: harsh 13:01:31 Meeting: DPVCG Meeting Call 13:01:35 Chair: harsh 13:02:00 Date: 12 JAN 2022 13:02:10 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2022Jan/0004.html 13:02:41 Present: harsh, paul, beatriz, julian, georg 13:06:15 Topic: Jurisdictions 13:06:29 Modelling Jurisdiction / Laws as DPV extension https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2022Jan/0002.html 13:06:36 Previous minutes https://www.w3.org/2022/01/05-dpvcg-minutes.html 15:04:39 Instead of /Jurisdiction/ as a concept, we consider /Location/ to be a /Jurisdiction/ based on the view that jurisdictions are essentially locations with a government or law. 15:04:54 Concepts for `Location` accepted for addition - `Location` class as parent class of all concepts with `hasLocation` concept to associate a location. 15:05:27 `Location` is useful in places other than jurisdiction, e.g. StorageLocation to indicate where data is stored, and Controller's location to indicate where the controller is based. 15:06:01 Since /Country/ is a special form of location and relevant when deciding which laws apply and subsequent investigations, we provide categorisation of /Location/ based on countries and similar concepts. 15:07:15 For this we have concepts accepted - `Country` (e.g. France), `SupraNationalUnion` (e.g. European Union), `EconomicUnion` (e.g. EEA), and `Region` (e.g. California). 15:08:15 --- 15:09:34 The property `hasAuthority` is accepted to associate the existing concept of `Authority` with some context, e.g. ` hasAuthority `. 15:10:11 Using the above concepts, we can create a list of countries (and EU), indicate their authorities (e.g. DPAs). 15:10:46 To represent /Law/, the concept `Law` is provided so that specific use-cases can refer to GDPR as a law and state it is applicable. 15:11:07 For this, the property `hasApplicableLaw` is provided to indicate that the law applies or is adhered to. 15:11:25 Similarly, to indicate a jurisdiction applies or is operated in, the property `hasJurisdiction` is provided. 15:11:26 --- 15:11:55 There was a discussion on what should be the appropriate wording and interpretation of concepts related to jurisdictions and law. 15:12:37 Proposals were `hasApplicableJurisdiction` and `hasRelevantJurisdiction` which were not accepted due to being confusing as to applicability based on use-case and the probability of them being misused. 15:13:14 For now, DPV can provide the generic `hasJurisdiction` property and its use can specify the interpretation. 15:13:16 --- 15:13:45 ` hasJurisdiction ` can indicate the controller acknowledges some location as its jurisdiction (of preference or choice). 15:14:22 This is in contrast to ` hasLocation ` which only indicates the controller is located at some place(s), and which could in theory be used to determine jurisdictional concepts such as lead DPA. 15:15:20 ` hasJurisdiction ` similarly indicates that some processing activities or policy is operating within or applied to EU as the stated jurisdiction. 15:15:50 ` hasApplicableLaw ` provides an analogous way to specify that a law applies instead of stating the jurisdiction. 15:16:17 ` hasApplicableLaw ` can be provided in an extension to support inferences of the above two statements from each other. 15:16:20 --- 15:16:30 For now these concepts are considered as being accepted. 15:16:52 To indicate an objection or raise an issue, members are invited to email to the mailing list with their argument. 15:17:07 In the next meeting, we will consider such issues, if any, and finalise these concepts. 15:17:12 Topic: Next Meeting 15:17:22 We will meet next week in the usual time slot. 15:17:35 WED JAN-19 13:00 WET / 14:00 CET 15:17:41 zakim, bye 15:17:41 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been harsh, paul, beatriz, julian, georg 15:17:41 Zakim has left #dpvcg 15:17:48 rrsagent, publish minutes v2 15:17:48 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/12-dpvcg-minutes.html harsh 15:17:51 rrsagent, set logs world-visible 15:19:06 rrsagent, bye 15:19:06 I see no action items