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13:01:01 <kaz> meeting: WoT Use Cases
13:01:55 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool
13:02:36 <kaz> present+ Jack_Dickinson
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13:06:01 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_UseCase_WebConf#11.1.
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13:09:20 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
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13:16:53 <McCool> recap
13:17:10 <kaz> i/recap/scribenick: McCool/
13:17:20 <kaz> s/recap/topic: recap/
13:17:23 <McCool> ml: before winter break, reviewed doc and now have a version we are seeking approval for publication
13:17:32 <McCool> ... gave people time over the break to review
13:17:55 <McCool> ... there were a few questions outstanding, e.g. how to integrate retail
13:18:23 <McCool> ... but I think we are in a good position to do editorial fixes but not major content changes at this point
13:18:34 <McCool> topic: minutes
13:18:58 <McCool> ml: went over PRs for new use cases
13:19:10 <McCool> ... looked at EdgeX and Connexxus use cases
13:19:26 <McCool> ... integrated some additional use cases, including digital microscopes
13:19:30 <kaz> i|went over|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/12/14-wot-uc-minutes.html Dec-14
13:19:42 <McCool> ... had a proposal for a table
13:20:16 <McCool> mm: thought we agreed to take the table out for now... let's discuss today
13:20:27 <McCool> ml: any objections to publish?
13:20:33 <McCool> ... none, publish
13:20:36 <McCool> topic: logistics
13:20:48 <McCool> ml: back to biweekly schedule?
13:21:12 <McCool> ... we did a big push to update the doc, but I think it is appropriate to relax a little bit and focus on other specs
13:22:12 <mlagally___> proposal: go back to a bi-weekly schedule, skip next weeks cxall and have the next UC call in 2 weeks from now.
13:22:24 <mlagally___> proposal: go back to a bi-weekly schedule, skip next weeks call and have the next UC call in 2 weeks from now.
13:23:04 <mlagally___> resolution: go back to a bi-weekly schedule, skip next weeks call and have the next UC call in 2 weeks from now.
13:23:19 <McCool> topic: pull requests
13:23:49 <McCool> ml: two presentations from jack and dave, uploading
13:25:03 <McCool> mm: appropriate to include in W3C repos?
13:25:45 <McCool> kaz: can archive slides, does not require transfer of copyright
13:26:58 <McCool> de: as mentioned in email, was not sure where the document we talked about was
13:28:27 <mlagally___> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/160/files
13:28:39 <mlagally___> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/159/files
13:28:58 <McCool> ml: just put the content into the repo, under CONTRIBUTIONS
13:29:59 <McCool> ... not new content, just helping you out with the upload
13:30:23 <McCool> de: we use gitlab, would like to spend time with someone figuring out how to do PRs
13:30:33 <McCool> ml: let's take ten minute after the call
13:30:46 <McCool> ... in the meantime, are we comfortable with merging these?
13:30:50 <McCool> de: sure
13:30:55 <McCool> jd: sure
13:31:25 <McCool> de: actually, can you not merge the second one, we can use it as a test case in our session?
13:31:34 <McCool> ml: ok, sure, will keep it open
13:31:45 <McCool> de: but we do approve merging the content
13:32:12 <McCool> topic: document review
13:32:27 <McCool> ml: to recap, reorganized retail into a common section
13:32:50 <McCool> ... the orginal single use case is now set up as an intro
13:34:01 <kaz> i|to recap|-> https://w3c.github.io/wot-usecases/#retail WoT Use Cases - 2.5 Retail
13:34:02 <McCool> mm: but it probably needs a little tweaking so the opening use case reads like an introduction
13:34:34 <McCool> ... and I recall we agreed to comment out the table for now (but it's still in the doc)
13:34:54 <McCool> ml: we thought the table was useful, however
13:35:09 <McCool> ... see slide 3 in pres
13:35:15 <dezell> q+
13:35:27 <McCool> ... but maybe it goes at the beginning of 2.5 before any use case
13:36:05 <McCool> de: regarding the table, is it a problem if this only exists for retail
13:36:15 <McCool> ... also first two columns don't really fit
13:36:31 <McCool> ... and needs to be updated to list all of them
13:36:48 <McCool> ml: in that case, let's stick with what we have
13:37:23 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
13:37:37 <McCool> mm: david, please do think about the name for the first retail use case
13:37:50 <McCool> ... we called it "retail operations" but that may not be ideal
13:37:54 <McCool> topic: publication
13:38:01 <McCool> ... need to clean up issues, etc.
13:38:46 <McCool> ... in particular, need to close issues that have been resolved
13:38:53 <McCool> ... e.g. digital microscopes
13:40:38 <McCool> ml: closing issue #172, for retail use cases
13:41:02 <McCool> ml: issue #135, use specref database references when possible
13:41:32 <kaz> s/... need/mm: need/
13:41:57 <McCool> ... note this is specific, there are a set of references that needed to be fixed
13:42:26 <kaz> i|closing issue #172|subtopic: Issue 172|
13:42:35 <McCool> ... issue is still outstanding
13:42:40 <kaz> i|closing issue #172|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/172 Issue 172 - Revise introductory Retail use case - table, etc.|
13:42:43 <McCool> subtopic: Issue #121
13:42:56 <McCool> ml: this is for Brick schema
13:42:57 <kaz> i|issue #135|subtopic: Issue #135|
13:43:17 <kaz> s/subtopic: Issue 172/subtopic: Issue #172/
13:43:47 <kaz> i|issue #135|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/135 Issue 135 - Improve references: Use Specref Database references where available for release 2.0|
13:44:08 <McCool> ... also need to convert the
13:44:16 <McCool> ... URL to an actual reference
13:44:29 <McCool> ml: ok, editorial, mm can you fix?
13:44:30 <kaz> i|this is for B|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/121 Issue 121 - Add citation to Brick Schema|
13:44:31 <McCool> mm: yes
13:45:11 <McCool> subtopic: Subtopic Issue #88
13:45:17 <McCool> ml: accessibility revierw
13:46:56 <McCool> mm: as part of the revirew, they could provide input on issue #64
13:48:58 <McCool> ... e.g. whether we need to add specific considerations to each use case
13:49:12 <McCool> mm: ok, assign this to me, I will send the email requesting revierw
13:49:20 <McCool> s/revierw/review/
13:49:21 <kaz> s/Subtopic Issue/Issue/
13:51:29 <McCool> mm: not clear if the cifferent lifecycles are really different use cases or just different ecosystem conventions
13:51:37 <McCool> ... will have to discuss in security
13:52:43 <kaz> s/cifferent/different/
13:53:17 <McCool> mm: rather than specific considerations
13:54:41 <McCool> mm: (proposed text in issue)
13:54:48 <McCool> subtopic: issue #48
13:55:03 <kaz> i|accessibility review|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/88 Issue 88 - Accessibility review of FPWD draft of "WoT Use Cases and Requirements" document|
13:55:17 <kaz> i|not clear|subtopic: Issue #50|
13:55:51 <McCool> mm: do we have any vertical use cases that mention time series?
13:56:01 <McCool> ... smart home, digital twin, etc.
13:56:14 <McCool> kaz: smart building, media, etc.
13:56:33 <kaz> i|not clear|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/50 Issue 50 - Complete privacy section for Medical use case|
13:56:59 <kaz> s/issue #48/Issue #48/
13:57:01 <McCool> subtopic: issue #49
13:57:11 <McCool> ml: OAuth
13:57:38 <kaz> i|do we have any|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/48 Issue 48 - Horizontal use case for time series|
13:57:39 <McCool> mm: think we can do the same thing here as medical, just add a sentence citing the appropriate spec, in this case the OAuth spec
13:58:13 <kaz> i|OAuth|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/49 Issue 49 - Complete privacy section for Oauth use case|
13:58:20 <kaz> s/issue #49/Issue #49/
13:58:52 <McCool> subtopic: issue #39-#44
13:59:04 <McCool> ml: cross references, all deferred to pub 3.0
13:59:30 <McCool> subtopic: issue #75
13:59:42 <McCool> ml: requirements for timestamps; first need use cases
14:00:38 <McCool> subtopic: issue #76
14:01:02 <McCool> mm: accuracy; we agreed to use SSE terminology
14:01:31 <McCool> ... agree not short-term, but can start by identifying use cases that mention accuracy, e.g. geolocation
14:01:43 <McCool> topic: others
14:01:52 <kaz> i|cross refere|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/39 Issue 39 - Cross reference from vertical use cases to horizontal use cases|
14:01:53 <McCool> ml: will generally assume other issues are all deferred
14:02:09 <sebastian> I need to go
14:02:19 <kaz> i|cross refere|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/40 Issue 40 - Cross reference from vertical use cases to Discovery use case|
14:02:50 <kaz> i|cross refere|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/41 Issue 41 - Cross reference from vertical use cases to Oauth use case|
14:03:18 <kaz> i|cross refere|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/42 Issue 42 - Cross reference from vertical use cases to Digital Twin use case|
14:03:41 <kaz> i|cross refere|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/43 Issue 43 - Cross reference from vertical use cases to Geolocation use case|
14:04:02 <kaz> i|cross refere|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/44 Issue 44 - Cross reference from vertical use cases to Edge Computing use case|
14:04:49 <kaz> i|requirements for time|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/75 Issue 75 - Requirements document for time stamps/ time series|
14:05:08 <mlagally___> kaz, the bridge was closed
14:06:47 <mlagally___> zoom would be better
14:06:54 <mlagally___> does that work for you?
14:07:06 <mlagally___> or can we just join back for 10 mins?
14:08:12 <mlagally___> thanks Kaz - let's do that
14:09:28 <kaz> i|accuracy;|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/76 Issue 76 - Requirements document for accuracy|
14:10:22 <kaz> i/I need to go/[adjourned]/
14:10:32 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:10:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:10:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/11-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
14:11:32 <kaz> s/issue #/Issue #/
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14:11:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:11:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/11-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
14:12:37 <kaz> chair: Lagally
14:13:32 <kaz> s/accessibility revierw/accessibility review/
14:13:54 <kaz>  i|accessibility review|Issue 88 - Accessibility review of FPWD draft of "WoT Use Cases and Requirements" document|
14:13:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:13:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/11-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
14:14:31 <kaz> rrsagent, bye
14:14:31 <RRSAgent> I see no action items