15:01:05 RRSAgent has joined #personalization 15:01:05 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/01/03-personalization-irc 15:01:08 RRSAgent, make logs Public 15:01:09 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger 15:01:33 meeting: APA Personalization Task Force Teleconference - 3 Jan Monday 2022 15:02:31 Matthew_Atkinson has joined #personalization 15:04:23 becky has joined #personalization 15:04:38 present+ 15:05:24 present+ 15:09:08 https://www.w3.org/wiki/Holidays 15:09:32 Thanks Janina. UK bank (public) holidays (includes link to ICS file): https://www.gov.uk/bank-holidays 15:11:27 scribe: becka11y 15:11:38 agenda? 15:11:40 agenda? 15:11:42 present+ 15:11:46 present+ 15:11:46 rrsagent, make minutes 15:11:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/03-personalization-minutes.html becky 15:11:57 zakim, next item 15:11:57 agendum 1 -- Follow-up on i18n issue #144 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger] 15:12:23 lionel: no response from i18n, yet 15:12:32 https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/144 15:13:11 Janina: some confusion of works Matthew and Lisa have completed 15:14:08 q+ 15:14:41 Matthew: yes, is a rendering with the symbols; default of symbol position is above. It works with Bliss symbols but still have to get the URI made public ( by Lisa). 15:14:50 Janina: killer demo is pressing a button and changing symbol set 15:15:19 Matthew: we don't have that yet. Need to figure out how and where to publish the demo with the latest changes 15:16:26 Janina: believe we can just show it off to i18n using an non-public website to move the issue forward 15:16:51 Matthew_Atkinson : will work with Lisa to get if made publically available 15:16:58 JF has joined #personalization 15:17:15 agenda? 15:17:20 Matthew_Atkinson: github isn't up to date with instructions; I am happy to write them up but need public URI first 15:17:28 Present+ 15:17:56 q? 15:19:20 CharlesL: if we can move the icon to the side rather than above, then we can potentially shift for different language directions; user preference would be good; If is positioned via css it can be positioned below or wherever user prefers 15:19:26 ack CharlesL 15:19:42 janina: do we have thoughts on how to build in support for other sets? 15:19:55 Lionel_Wolberger : I believe this tool allows uploading another set 15:20:20 Matthew_Atkinson: there is functionality to try and use another set but it doesn't work, yet 15:20:41 Matthew_Atkinson : needs further development work 15:21:07 Matthew_Atkinson : code is there but pointers to other symbol set is broken 15:21:48 janina: want the symbol sets to be "reliably located" so they can be found 15:22:16 zakim, next item 15:22:16 agendum 2 -- CR draft Status (if #144 is clear) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger] 15:23:02 janina: I want to start the prep for CR; will make argument to WAI/W3c management since we know that we will have two CRs due to issue with data- 15:24:12 janina: want to get process started; we can at least update issue #144 once we have the URL to example and press i18n to respond 15:24:44 q? 15:24:46 janina: might be use implementation URL to be on Lisa's website for now 15:25:30 zakim, next item 15:25:30 agendum 3 -- Content Module Implementations check-in: LMS Blackboard? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger] 15:27:06 Lionel_Wolberger: Implementation requests: access board is at work on page implementation; user way will do some kind of rendering but need the markup from the access board; BBC declined; TDBank declined; 15:27:42 Janina: we have friends inside Boston's WGBH public radio/tv and NCAM 15:27:54 JF: suggests we should chat with Nigel? 15:28:08 Janina: yes, and Lisa also has a contact at BBC 15:28:22 q+ 15:29:30 JF: I also suggested building a module for TinyMCE before the holidays; I believe a plugin added to a WYSIWYG editor to support content module should be enough to support the specification 15:30:52 JF: tinyMCE used to be the default editor in Wordpress (before Guttenberg); implementation would add a drop down or mechanism to add the various content module attributes 15:31:39 JF: civic actions (where Mike Gifford is now) may be someone to contact 15:32:41 Lionel_Wolberger: did have a meeting with WIX; this isn't really their business 15:34:02 Lionel_Wolberger: someone mentioned pinging Sheri at VMWare; 15:34:19 Janina: would like to wait until we have a renderer before reaching out 15:34:57 Lionel_Wolberger: Amazon has come up 15:36:17 Janina: Amazon is interested; I will follow up 15:38:09 Janina: good to poke NCAM and LG as soon as we have the renderer and instructions 15:39:15 JF: we do need to make sure we can show other attributes in addition to symbols 15:39:52 Janina: element level semantics (JF's term) has been very helpful for people to understand 15:40:05 JF: just want to make sure we focus on more than just the symbols 15:41:23 JF: adding an icon to identify help links is similar to symbols but perhaps more general and different 15:42:02 lionel: 4 of 6 attributes can involve adding iconographg to page; others remove information 15:42:41 rrsagent,make minutes 15:42:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/03-personalization-minutes.html becky 15:43:07 s/WIX/web page builder 15:43:27 s/WIX/web page builder/ 15:44:08 Lionel_Wolberger has joined #personalization 15:44:13 Janina: we were thinking about ruby and Japanese; could ping Makoto 15:44:58 Lionel_Wolberger: also wanted to approach a LMS - learning management system 15:47:13 JF: I think biggest problem with LMS is that people using it don't understand what needs to be done to create accessible content 15:47:55 Lionel_Wolberger: would be good to contact ETS 15:48:29 CharlesL: do we have a "pitch" type email template we can fine tune for reaching out to our contacts 15:48:49 lionel: I will send my template to Charles 15:50:43 janina: ETS is doing significant work in APA task forces 15:51:41 Janina: we need to make the authoring easier - as mentioned during our joint TPAC meetings 15:52:40 janina: need to make pronunciation, aria, personalization, etc easier for authors to add 15:53:18 rrsagent, make minutes 15:53:18 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/03-personalization-minutes.html becky 15:53:35 Lionel_Wolberger: what about WebAIM? 15:54:41 some discussion of WebAIM's participation in W3c 15:57:21 Q+ 15:57:33 q? 15:59:13 Matthew_Atkinson: definitely agree that it would be good to get implementations in editors; perhaps look at wikipedia - they already deal with simplification; what about simplifying twitch or youtube? generally apps that have multiple streams happening at once 15:59:19 ack Matthew_Atkinson 15:59:27 ack jf 15:59:44 rrsagent, make minutes 15:59:44 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/03-personalization-minutes.html becky 16:00:48 +1 to naming the modules to real names 16:01:11 Matthew_Atkinson: I attended COGA meeting but didn't get through many attributes; I also believe we need to refer to modules by name vs using numbers (1, 2,3) as this is confusing; COGA was enthusiastic 16:01:29 rrsagent, make minutes 16:01:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/01/03-personalization-minutes.html becky 16:31:42 CharlesL has left #personalization 17:33:23 janina has left #personalization 18:19:02 MichaelC has joined #personalization