14:56:59 RRSAgent has joined #pronunciation 14:56:59 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/12/15-pronunciation-irc 14:57:01 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:57:04 Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference 14:57:04 Date: 15 December 2021 14:57:06 agenda? 14:57:15 zakim, clear agenda 14:57:15 agenda cleared 14:57:41 Agenda+ Action Items 14:57:55 Agenda+ Github Issues 14:58:03 Agenda+ Other Business 14:58:10 present+ 14:58:32 Sam_K has joined #pronunciation 15:00:50 present+ 15:04:25 JF has joined #pronunciation 15:04:46 Dee has joined #pronunciation 15:05:00 present+ 15:05:10 present+ 15:05:58 PaulG has joined #pronunciation 15:06:13 zakim, agenda? 15:06:13 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda: 15:06:14 1. Action Items [from IrfanA] 15:06:14 2. Github Issues [from IrfanA] 15:06:14 3. Other Business [from IrfanA] 15:06:25 present+ 15:06:41 zakim, who is here? 15:06:41 Present: Roy, SteveNoble, mhakkinen, IrfanA, Sam_K, Dee, PaulG 15:06:43 On IRC I see PaulG, Dee, JF, Sam_K, RRSAgent, IrfanA, MichaelC, Roy, jcraig, Zakim, trackbot 15:06:46 Present+ 15:08:14 (last week was an informal meeting) 15:08:38 We reflected on our conversation with ARIA WG and discussed our approach 15:09:08 I wrote a draft letter to ARIA WG that was reviewed by Janina, Irfan, and Mark. 15:12:41 mhakkinen has joined #pronunciation 15:12:52 present+ 15:12:58 present Janina 15:13:04 present+ Janina 15:13:06 NeilS has joined #pronunciation 15:13:16 present+ 15:13:27 japresent+Janina 15:13:33 present+Janina 15:13:42 zakim, who is here? 15:13:42 Present: Roy, SteveNoble, mhakkinen, IrfanA, Sam_K, Dee, PaulG, JF, Janina, NeilS 15:13:45 On IRC I see NeilS, mhakkinen, PaulG, Dee, JF, Sam_K, RRSAgent, IrfanA, MichaelC, Roy, jcraig, Zakim, trackbot 15:13:56 Based on the conversations following TPAC, we, the Pronunciation Task Force (TF), decided to pursue the "single-attribute" approach for Specification for Spoken Presentation in HTML. Following that decision, the ARIA Working Group (WG) provided additional feedback that we would like to address. In an effort to reach prototype implementation, we will scale back the eight (8) sections of the specification (currently section 3.1) to four (4):[CUT] 15:14:16 break (pausing) phoneme sub Based on the gap analysis, the TF feels these qualities of speech represent the most value to the widest audience and propose they be included in the first phase of prototype development. 15:15:30 Q+ 15:20:20 aaronlev_ has joined #pronunciation 15:20:22 Hello 15:20:25 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GzVgbwcldWAP3l6yc3KLSRy4rr_qRusEE566viui0_o/edit#heading=h.ofq9e4kz98ka 15:21:26 q? 15:23:48 +1 to Neil, pause/break is very important 15:24:47 where the value is between 500ms and 2s (I think) 15:25:14 NeilS: Eloquence doesn't take the advantage of IPA. JAWS use Eloquence 15:25:51 aaronlev_: I will have another proposal for the specific use cases. 15:26:24 janina: ARIA part worries me because AT doesn't implement aria. 15:26:32 aaronlev_: this is driven by browser 15:27:38 JF: internationalization part is very important. Can we address this using IPA? 15:28:08 aaronlev_: IPA was not the only idea here... there are more ideas and nothing related to only one particular language 15:28:35 aaronlev_: If you guys want to discuss amongst you and come back, we will be happy to discuss. I will answer any question 15:28:51 janina: we have enough to kick this up 15:29:05 NeilS: thanks for the proposal 15:29:29 PaulG has left #pronunciation 15:29:48 aaronlev_: having a global dictionary that you can override and keeping it simple for the browser 15:31:21 rrsagent, make minutes 15:31:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/15-pronunciation-minutes.html IrfanA 15:31:46 aaronlev_: James Craig and I are working on some of the syntax 15:32:15 rrsagent, make minutes 15:32:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/15-pronunciation-minutes.html IrfanA 17:03:33 bkardell_ has joined #pronunciation