IRC log of pronunciation on 2021-12-15

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Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 15 December 2021
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agenda?
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zakim, clear agenda
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agenda cleared
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Agenda+ Action Items
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Agenda+ Github Issues
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Agenda+ Other Business
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present+
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present+
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present+
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present+
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. Action Items [from IrfanA]
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2. Github Issues [from IrfanA]
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3. Other Business [from IrfanA]
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present+
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zakim, who is here?
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Present: Roy, SteveNoble, mhakkinen, IrfanA, Sam_K, Dee, PaulG
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On IRC I see PaulG, Dee, JF, Sam_K, RRSAgent, IrfanA, MichaelC, Roy, jcraig, Zakim, trackbot
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Present+
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(last week was an informal meeting)
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We reflected on our conversation with ARIA WG and discussed our approach
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I wrote a draft letter to ARIA WG that was reviewed by Janina, Irfan, and Mark.
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present+
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present Janina
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present+ Janina
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present+
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japresent+Janina
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present+Janina
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zakim, who is here?
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Present: Roy, SteveNoble, mhakkinen, IrfanA, Sam_K, Dee, PaulG, JF, Janina, NeilS
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On IRC I see NeilS, mhakkinen, PaulG, Dee, JF, Sam_K, RRSAgent, IrfanA, MichaelC, Roy, jcraig, Zakim, trackbot
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Based on the conversations following TPAC, we, the Pronunciation Task Force (TF), decided to pursue the "single-attribute" approach for Specification for Spoken Presentation in HTML. Following that decision, the ARIA Working Group (WG) provided additional feedback that we would like to address. In an effort to reach prototype implementation, we will scale back the eight (8) sections of the specification (currently section 3.1) to four (4):[CUT]
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break (pausing) phoneme sub Based on the gap analysis, the TF feels these qualities of speech represent the most value to the widest audience and propose they be included in the first phase of prototype development.
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Q+
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Hello
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GzVgbwcldWAP3l6yc3KLSRy4rr_qRusEE566viui0_o/edit#heading=h.ofq9e4kz98ka
15:21:26 [IrfanA]
q?
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+1 to Neil, pause/break is very important
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<break time="string" /> where the value is between 500ms and 2s (I think)
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NeilS: Eloquence doesn't take the advantage of IPA. JAWS use Eloquence
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aaronlev_: I will have another proposal for the specific use cases.
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janina: ARIA part worries me because AT doesn't implement aria.
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aaronlev_: this is driven by browser
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JF: internationalization part is very important. Can we address this using IPA?
15:28:08 [IrfanA]
aaronlev_: IPA was not the only idea here... there are more ideas and nothing related to only one particular language
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aaronlev_: If you guys want to discuss amongst you and come back, we will be happy to discuss. I will answer any question
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janina: we have enough to kick this up
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NeilS: thanks for the proposal
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aaronlev_: having a global dictionary that you can override and keeping it simple for the browser
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/15-pronunciation-minutes.html IrfanA
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aaronlev_: James Craig and I are working on some of the syntax
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/15-pronunciation-minutes.html IrfanA
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