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14:12:03 <kaz> meeting: WoT Plugfest/Testing
14:12:06 <mlagally> scribenick: mlagally
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14:12:22 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_08.12.2021
14:12:35 <kaz> topic: Minutes
14:12:36 <mlagally> topic: review minutes of last call
14:12:41 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/12/01-wot-pf-minutes.html Dec-1
14:12:49 <kaz> s/topic: Minutes//
14:13:50 <mlagally> fml: canonicalisation has been removed
14:14:05 <mlagally> ... nobody complained about the current time for the PF
14:14:14 <mlagally> ... we don't have a F2F scheduled yet
14:14:24 <mlagally> ... we need to make sure our schedule makes sense
14:14:32 <mlagally> fs: I see no problems now
14:14:44 <mlagally> ... any problems with the minutes? (none)
14:14:49 <mlagally> ... lets publish
14:15:33 <kaz> chair: Fady
14:15:35 <mlagally> topic: Discuss Wiki cleanup
14:15:56 <kaz> s/fml:/fs:/
14:16:01 <mlagally> fs: have created an archive, should we do it now or offline
14:16:18 <mlagally> mm: last time I created a link to a github page with the archive
14:16:26 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashmura, Fady_Salama, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:16:34 <mlagally> ... we should just copy things year by year and have a separate page
14:17:03 <mlagally> mm: let me do it right now and we can review later
14:17:22 <mlagally> topic: github Wiki
14:17:58 <mlagally> fs: I did some tests, we can have a repo of MD files
14:18:05 <mlagally> mm: where do the md files live
14:18:18 <mlagally> fs: I did not clone the repo, need to check
14:18:31 <mlagally> ... a separate repo
14:18:44 <mlagally> mm: what if somebody does a PR against that repo?
14:18:51 <mlagally> fs: you can see the history
14:19:09 <mlagally> ... just started today
14:19:40 <mlagally> mm: we should see if we can open it up to non-members
14:19:55 <mlagally> fs: we could do, but people could do what they want
14:20:27 <mlagally> mm: if we don't allow non-members this may cause problems
14:20:39 <mlagally> fs: people could still have them using issues
14:20:56 <mlagally> ... without that it is not going to work at all
14:21:28 <mlagally> mm: Echonet needs a plugfest summary, I started, need to finish, expect to do it today
14:21:44 <mlagally> ... will send a summary to Kaz, Mizushima-san, ...
14:21:47 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:21:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:21:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:22:18 <mlagally> fs: it is easy to stick it in the wiki if you have a md file
14:22:23 <mlagally> q+
14:22:39 <mlagally> ... any concerns?
14:23:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:23:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:23:52 <mlagally> ml: please provide an easy way to identify the up to date information
14:24:12 <mlagally> ... this is important for people who are not able to attend here on a regular basis
14:25:09 <mlagally> mm: proposal: link to the Wiki from the readme, this is what people look at first
14:25:15 <mlagally> fs: this is easy to do
14:25:43 <mlagally> mm: let me try to do it, it looks to be pretty straightforward
14:25:56 <mlagally> q+
14:27:00 <mlagally> mm: I got a 404 on some operation, may need to do a manual copy
14:27:16 <kaz> q+
14:27:37 <mlagally> ... we still use issues for the plugfest, will carry over these issues and clean up afterwards
14:27:53 <kaz> ack ml
14:27:58 <kaz> ml: 2 questions
14:28:19 <kaz> ... 1. we have a repo already
14:28:40 <kaz> ... should clarify what is ongoing, etc.
14:29:06 <kaz> ... probably need to profile identifier
14:29:12 <kaz> s/to/to add/
14:29:23 <kaz> mm: do you have JSON Schema or Profile?
14:29:48 <kaz> ... the next thing should be adding a JSON Schema for Profile
14:30:33 <kaz> ml: next
14:31:04 <kaz> ... 2. would like input from Plugfest participants for Profile
14:31:37 <kaz> mm: should be careful because some of the Plugfest efforts are prototyping
14:32:02 <kaz> s/prototyping/experimentations/
14:32:38 <kaz> ml: what about Web Things?
14:32:47 <kaz> mm: didn't join the TPAC Plugfest
14:33:04 <kaz> ... they're working on directory, so would like to see their work
14:33:06 <kaz> ml: ok
14:33:25 <kaz> ... Web Things, Fujitsu and Fraunhofer are working on directory
14:33:36 <kaz> mm: it depends on the code base
14:33:51 <kaz> ... thought Fujitsu's implementation was based on node-wot
14:34:25 <kaz> ... I have a proxy
14:34:30 <kaz> ... end point
14:34:38 <kaz> ... also would see OAuth
14:35:02 <kaz> ... think Web Things is also handling OAuth
14:35:08 <kaz> ml: ok
14:35:13 <kaz> q?
14:35:30 <kaz> mm: we need to look into Web Things implementation too
14:35:55 <kaz> ... one of our goals is aiming interoperability
14:36:02 <kaz> ... we need to contact Ben
14:36:07 <kaz> fs: ok
14:36:10 <kaz> q?
14:36:35 <McCool> fady: is spec freeze today?
14:36:44 <McCool> topic: implementation schedule
14:36:59 <McCool> kaz: regarding github and wiki
14:37:07 <McCool> topic: wiki
14:37:16 <McCool> kaz: based on discussion, we plan to use wiki
14:37:27 <McCool> ... in that case, three locations for W3C testing...
14:37:38 <kaz> s/topic: implementation schedule//
14:37:45 <McCool> ... W3C wiki, github repo, and github wiki
14:38:01 <McCool> ... w3c wiki is just for calls, should not have results
14:38:49 <kaz> s/topic: wiki//
14:38:51 <McCool> ... the github wiki is just to capture project descriptions... copy info from
14:39:02 <kaz> i/regarding/topic: Wiki and GitHub/
14:39:49 <kaz> q+
14:39:55 <McCool> mm: understand point about having things in too many places
14:40:01 <McCool> ... readme can point at things
14:40:15 <McCool> ... but it occurs to me the W3C wiki does not link to the repo, even
14:40:26 <McCool> ... and people looking for that content may get lost
14:46:25 <kaz> s/... w3c wiki/fs: w3c wiki/
15:00:05 <kaz> ack k
15:00:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:00:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:00:49 <kaz> i/2 questions/scribenick: kaz/
15:00:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:00:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:02:45 <kaz> s/based on discussion, we plan to use wiki/based on the discussion today, it seems we plan to use the GitHub wiki in addition to the W3C wiki and GitHub MD./
15:03:27 <kaz> s/based on discussion, we plan to use wiki/based on the discussion today, it seems we plan to use the GitHub wiki in addition to the W3C wiki and GitHub MD./
15:03:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:03:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:03:59 <kaz> i/regarding github/scribenick: McCool/
15:04:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:04:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:05:00 <kaz> mm: (created a summary template for 2021.09.Online)
15:05:06 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2021.09.Online/RESULTS summary template
15:05:40 <kaz> mm: (also created a PR to put content)
15:05:58 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/200 PR 200 - Add Summary for Online.09 plugfest
15:06:01 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:06:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:06:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:08:06 <kaz> s/fady: is spec freeze today?//
15:08:24 <kaz> s/topic: Wiki and GitHub//
15:08:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:08:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:09:04 <kaz> i/created a/scribenick: kaz/
15:09:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:09:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:09:23 <kaz> s|s/based on discussion, we plan to use wiki/based on the discussion today, it seems we plan to use the GitHub wiki in addition to the W3C wiki and GitHub MD./||
15:09:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:09:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:09:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:09:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
15:09:45 <kaz> i/created a summary/scribenick: kaz/
15:09:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:09:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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