12:54:23 RRSAgent has joined #dpvcg 12:54:23 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-dpvcg-irc 12:54:28 ScribeNick: harsh 12:54:31 Meeting: DPVCG Meeting Call 12:54:35 Chair: harsh 12:55:35 Date: 08 DEC 2021 12:55:42 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2021Dec/0000.html 13:02:37 Present: harsh, paul, georg, julian 13:04:13 Regrets: inah 13:06:14 Previous minutes https://www.w3.org/2021/12/01-dpvcg-minutes.html 13:06:30 Previous minutes about today's agenda https://www.w3.org/2021/11/24-dpvcg-minutes.html 13:06:42 Topic: Data Entities categories and sub-classes 13:07:22 In previous meeting(s), we agreed to include only those categories that are relevant and important e.g. mentioned by a legal obligation so as to include in core DPV instead of an extension 13:08:14 julian: this list will not be comprehensive, and is dynamic and industry-specific in real-world 13:09:26 georg: so in cases of e.g. ROPA, there would DataSubject as the field and an open text field to specify information about what data subject categories 13:19:28 julian: these labels are not formalised in the sense that their interpretation is not clear, unambigious, or uniform across use-cases. For example, 'WebsiteVisitors' is applicable to a visitor to a website, but if there is embedded Twitter content on that website then are they also visitors? 13:20:31 julian: some of these categories are subclasses of LegalEntity but not DataSubject, why so? 13:21:17 georg: In some cases, e.g. GDPR A.9(2-d), where members may not be data subjects until certain conditions are met 13:21:32 julian: in this case, `Member` should be in dpv-gdpr rather than dpv 13:25:36 georg: we can think in terms of legal entities, so as to see which groups of data subjects are associated with each legal entity ; then we can think of what categories to model 13:46:24 Everyone agrees to the proposal. Georg will be sharing a preliminary categorisation on the mailing list. 13:46:33 Topic: Personal Data Categories ambiguity and resolution 13:49:42 Proposal earlier talked about prefixing concept IRIs (e.g. Location) with `pd_` to make it `pd_Location` so as to disambiguate it from other uses of Location e.g. StorageLocation as adopters are incorrectly using Location (which is personal data) to denote other forms of non-personal-data locations e.g. company location 13:50:06 julian: prefer modular approach i.e. extract personal data to separate module and use as dpv-pd:Location 13:50:19 paul: like the concepts all being in one place, but okay to go with consensus 13:50:28 harsh: Piero denoted preference for modular approach as well 13:50:36 harsh: I prefer modular approach as well 13:50:57 Harsh will enquire with Georg and the group will make a decision in next week's meeting 13:51:04 Topic: Next Meeting 13:51:23 We will meet again on WED 15-DEC 13:00 WET / 14:00 CET 13:51:26 zakim, bye 13:51:26 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been harsh, paul, georg, julian 13:51:26 Zakim has left #dpvcg 13:52:39 rrsagent, publish minutes v2 13:52:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/12/08-dpvcg-minutes.html harsh 13:52:42 rrsagent, set logs world-visible 13:53:23 rrsagent, bye 13:53:23 I see no action items