14:47:56 RRSAgent has joined #epub-locators 14:47:56 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/11/12-epub-locators-irc 14:47:58 RRSAgent, make logs Public 14:47:59 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), wendyreid 14:48:14 meeting: Virtual Locators TF Telco Nov 12, 2021 14:48:18 date: 2021-11-12 14:48:22 chair: wendyreid 14:59:50 present+ 15:00:55 duga has joined #epub-locators 15:01:06 present+ 15:01:31 pilarw2000 has joined #epub-locators 15:01:37 present+ 15:02:22 dlazin has joined #epub-locators 15:02:33 https://w3c.github.io/epub-specs/epub33/locators/ 15:04:02 avneeshsingh has joined #epub-locators 15:12:14 laurent_ has joined #epub-locators 15:12:23 present+ laurent 15:18:03 q? 15:40:40 present+ avneesh 15:57:23 shiestyle has joined #epub-locators 16:02:26 present+ 16:22:23 duga has joined #epub-locators 16:48:26 duga has joined #epub-locators 17:12:19 shiestyle has joined #epub-locators 18:03:20 scribe+ 18:03:34 TOPIC: Plan going forward 18:04:19 After discussion with the rest of the working group, added some new content to the document. 18:05:04 Plan for the next few meetings is to focus on producing a first draft of the algorithm, seek out feedback from impacted groups. 18:05:58 Also going to work on contacting Adobe to push for building the page list on generation of an EPUB in InDesign. 18:06:20 Impacted groups include publishers, tools vendors, retailers, and reading systems. 18:06:29 TOPIC: The Algorithm 18:06:45 First step is to produce a rough draft of the main algorithm for feedback. 18:07:23 Initial decisions, will go with a 1024 code points = "page" or locator position. 18:09:10 Run through each content file, generate a locator every 1024 codepoints, collect those locators into a generated list of locations, proceed until end of documents. 18:09:17 Open questions: 18:09:49 Do we start from 0 on every content document (new document, new page), or count continuously. 18:10:04 Do we present options to switch between those page generating options? 18:10:44 This algo is as much a deterrent as a benefit, so we may want to be opinionated about this to further encourage content creators to use page-list 18:11:01 We will not be considering CSS page breaks/ CSS object model 18:11:39 Concerns about encrypted content, would a RS need to unencrypt the entire document to process this location list 18:12:15 An XHTML parser may be required, especially if we specify that counting must be done on text within the 18:12:47 Suggestion we built the draft algorithm with these questions included, so we can share our thought process and concerns with feedback providers 18:13:27 Question of what do we do about publishers that may produce retailer-specific content (would the paging be affected, we want these to be as consistent as possible, even between platforms) 18:13:36 rrsagent, generate minutes 18:13:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/11/12-epub-locators-minutes.html wendyreid 18:13:44 rrsagent, make logs public 18:13:48 zakim, end meeting 18:13:48 As of this point the attendees have been tzviya, duga, pilarw, laurent, avneesh, dlazin 18:13:50 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 18:13:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/11/12-epub-locators-minutes.html Zakim 18:13:53 I am happy to have been of service, wendyreid; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 18:13:57 Zakim has left #epub-locators 18:14:01 rrsagent, bye 18:14:01 I see no action items