13:04:12 RRSAgent has joined #wot-uc 13:04:13 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/11/09-wot-uc-irc 13:04:30 meeting: WoT Use Cases 13:06:14 Mizushima has joined #wot-uc 13:08:31 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:12:48 hi all, I will join 30min later. I like to present the Industry 4.0 use case 13:13:26 scribenick: kaz 13:13:32 topic: Minutes 13:13:39 https://www.w3.org/2021/11/02-wot-uc-minutes.html 13:13:54 ml: (goes through the minutes) 13:14:48 https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/151 13:18:32 ml: add the link above for "setup the issue" and then approve the minutes 13:18:51 topic: PR 148 13:19:40 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/148 PR 148 - Updated liaison chapter 13:19:58 ml: liaison section and acknowledgement section 13:20:31 q+ 13:21:18 ack k 13:21:45 kaz: wondering about the capitalized "SHOULD" right before the Liaison section 13:22:14 ... given the Use Cases and Requirements document is an informative Note, we don't need to use the RFC2119 keywords 13:22:31 ml: right 13:22:33 ack k 13:24:33 ... (fixes the typo) 13:24:45 kaz: Matsuda-san is working the text for ECHONET 13:25:02 ... so let's merge this as the template for that purpose :) 13:25:20 ml: ok 13:26:12 ... let's merge this PR and think about further edit after that 13:26:17 kaz: +1 13:26:19 (merged) 13:27:25 topic: Other Issues with the label of "publication-2.0" 13:27:37 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apublication-2.0 Issues marked with "publication-2.0" 13:28:23 ml: (goes through the list of issues) 13:29:48 topic: Issue 104 13:30:04 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/104 Issue 104 - Discovery use cases 13:30:15 ml: Discovery use cases 13:31:01 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/blob/main/USE-CASES/README.md WoT Discovery General Topics and Use Cases 13:31:22 kaz: ideally, it would be better for us to extract several typical use cases from this 13:31:29 ... and put them into the use case template 13:31:45 ... so that we can include them into the Use Cases and Requirements document 13:32:01 ml: (adds note on that) 13:32:16 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/104#issuecomment-964154563 Lagally's comment 13:32:43 topic: Issue 105 13:32:54 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/105 Issue 105 - Finalize the section 4.5.1.2 of Health use case 13:33:57 kaz: given this issue is old in March 13:34:15 ... and we have description on Privacy Considerations and References already 13:34:25 ... we should be able to close this issue 13:34:34 mizu: agree 13:35:21 topic: Issue 106 13:35:49 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/106 Issue 106 - Finalize the section 4.6.1 of Manufacturing 13:35:59 ml: can be closed as well 13:36:01 (closed) 13:36:15 i/topic: Issue 106/(closed)/ 13:36:23 topic: Issue 108 13:37:02 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/108 Issue 108 - Finalize the section 4.6.3 of Manufacturing 13:37:08 mizu: can be closed also 13:37:14 (closed) 13:37:27 topic: Issue 135 13:37:39 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/135 Issue 135 - Improve references: Use Specref Database references where available for release 2.0 13:38:26 ml: updates for references based on SpecRef 13:39:13 ... we can work on this offline 13:40:52 ... all the assignees of the publication-2.0 issues should respond 13:41:18 action: all the assignees to work on the publication-2.0 issues 13:41:50 Action: all owners of issues with label publication-2.0 to decide if they can contribute for end of year publication. 13:42:14 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apublication-2.0 Issues marked as "publication-2.0" 13:43:47 topic: @@@ 13:43:57 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/uc-opcua/USE-CASES/use-case-opc-ua-binding.md branch version MD 13:44:40 s/@@@/PR 90/ 13:45:02 i|https|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/90 PR 90 - Industry 4.0 - Motivation for OPC UA Binding| 13:45:46 q? 13:45:53 sk: (goes through the PR) 13:46:24 ... we already have node-wot as an implementation for WoT 13:46:34 ... but still need clarification for Binding 13:47:59 ... would like to see the connection among the devices 13:48:02 q+ 13:48:29 ... OPC-UA has its own security model 13:50:52 kaz: great description 13:51:15 ... was also expecting something like this when I asked you to provide a concrete use case during vF2F 13:51:25 ... we can think about concrete binding based on this 13:51:35 ml: agree this is a great starting point 13:51:44 ack 13:51:46 q+ 13:52:21 ... btw, there is a lot of stuff for Industrie 4.0 13:52:40 ... so would add some more resources here 13:52:47 sk: can do that 13:53:00 ... similar discussion with IoT in general 13:53:54 ... my suggestion is being generic as much as possible 13:54:35 ml: For example, there is some generic information about what Industrie 4.0 is like 13:55:27 sk: would like to be independent from that... 13:55:48 ml: maybe some other resources can be referred to 13:56:23 q? 13:59:04 kaz: several additional comments 13:59:19 ... having "Industry 4.0" as the title of the use case is confusing 13:59:44 ... maybe can say "Smart Manufacturing" which fits with the Industrie 4.0 concept 14:00:32 ... also we should add our own considerations for the sections on security, privacy, accessibility, i18n and requirements sections 14:00:47 ... in addition to the compatibility with OPC-UA 14:00:56 ml: agree 14:01:43 ... maybe we can say "interworking" or something like that for the title 14:01:50 ... let's continue the discussion 14:01:54 [adjourned] 14:02:02 rrsagent, make log public 14:02:21 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/11/09-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz 16:02:10 Zakim has left #wot-uc