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12:49:02 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
12:49:02 <trackbot> Date: 03 November 2021
12:49:06 <jasonjgw> chiar: jasonjgw
12:49:10 <jasonjgw> present+
12:49:16 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Accessibility of remote Meetings.
12:49:16 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.
12:49:16 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements.
12:49:16 <jasonjgw> agenda+ W3C Statements: Implications for Task Force publications.
12:49:16 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Upcoming workshop on professional media production on the Web.
12:49:18 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Automotive accessibility.
12:49:21 <jasonjgw> agenda+ The future of accessibility APIs: possible privacy-related RQTF work.
12:49:23 <jasonjgw> agenda+ RQTF and COGA: potential research topics.
12:49:36 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous TPAC 2021 observations.zakim, list agenda
12:49:57 <jasonjgw> zakim, remove agendum 9
12:49:57 <Zakim> agendum 9, Miscellaneous TPAC 2021 observations.zakim, list agenda, dropped
12:50:25 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous TPAC 2021 observations.
12:50:39 <jasonjgw> zakim, list agenda
12:50:39 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda:
12:50:40 <Zakim> 1. Accessibility of remote Meetings. [from jasonjgw]
12:50:40 <Zakim> 2. Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
12:50:40 <Zakim> 3. Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
12:50:40 <Zakim> 4. W3C Statements: Implications for Task Force publications. [from jasonjgw]
12:50:41 <Zakim> 5. Upcoming workshop on professional media production on the Web. [from jasonjgw]
12:50:41 <Zakim> 6. Automotive accessibility. [from jasonjgw]
12:50:42 <Zakim> 7. The future of accessibility APIs: possible privacy-related RQTF work. [from jasonjgw]
12:50:42 <Zakim> 8. RQTF and COGA: potential research topics. [from jasonjgw]
12:50:42 <Zakim> 10. Miscellaneous TPAC 2021 observations. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:04 <jasonjgw> zakim, list agenda
12:51:04 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda:
12:51:05 <Zakim> 1. Accessibility of remote Meetings. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:05 <Zakim> 2. Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:05 <Zakim> 3. Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:05 <Zakim> 4. W3C Statements: Implications for Task Force publications. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:06 <Zakim> 5. Upcoming workshop on professional media production on the Web. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:06 <Zakim> 6. Automotive accessibility. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:07 <Zakim> 7. The future of accessibility APIs: possible privacy-related RQTF work. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:07 <Zakim> 8. RQTF and COGA: potential research topics. [from jasonjgw]
12:51:07 <Zakim> 10. Miscellaneous TPAC 2021 observations. [from jasonjgw]
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12:53:06 <janina> agenda?
12:53:10 <janina> present+
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13:03:31 <SteveNoble> present+
13:03:36 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:03:36 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Accessibility of remote Meetings. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:05:53 <Joshue108> scribe: Joshue108
13:06:14 <Joshue108> JS: We need a new due date for comments
13:06:21 <Joshue108> The announcements didn't go out.
13:06:30 <Joshue108> I suggest a Friday in Dec
13:07:08 <Joshue108> I suggest both go into Dec
13:07:23 <Joshue108> JW: Mid to late Dec is that ok?
13:07:33 <Joshue108> SH: Janina mentioned a Friday
13:07:39 <Joshue108> JS: We will accept late comments
13:08:20 <Joshue108> Lets make them both Dec 10th (deadline for comments)
13:08:34 <Joshue108> JS: We expect comments on the NAUR and remote meetings
13:08:44 <Joshue108> SH: The feedback has been good thanks.
13:08:46 <Joshue108> q+
13:08:57 <Joshue108> SH: Good experience
13:09:11 <Joshue108> ack me
13:09:38 <jasonjgw> Josh: will coordinate on messaging/announcements.
13:10:23 <Joshue108> with Shawn
13:10:34 <Joshue108> JS: There were minutes on remote meetings.
13:11:08 <Joshue108> JS: There were back to back COGA issues, and it meant several group meetings were lumped together.
13:11:25 <Joshue108> JS: I can try to get them
13:12:10 <Joshue108> JW: When we get that done, we can look at this and discuss revisions
13:12:15 <Joshue108> SH: Sounds good.
13:12:53 <Joshue108> JW: We can do that and close out issues as we go.
13:13:20 <Joshue108> JW: Any other preference?
13:13:24 <Joshue108> SH: Takes action
13:14:01 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/27-coga-minutes.html
13:14:04 <Joshue108> JS: I've got the URI
13:15:03 <Joshue108> JS: <Discussion on a11y issues with Github>
13:15:09 <Joshue108> <and Google docs>
13:15:36 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:15:36 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:16:02 <Joshue108> JW: The meeting on this was a Voice Interface meeting
13:16:14 <Joshue108> I attended one, and other colleagues were there.
13:16:41 <Joshue108> There was a chance to socialise the document
13:16:53 <Joshue108> No comments yet but it was raised and into IRC and minutes
13:17:25 <Joshue108> JW: There were highlights, interest in a W3C workshop on speech and language interfaces.
13:17:40 <Joshue108> This has been on the cards for a while, years.
13:17:55 <Joshue108> Speech backed interfaces offer great potential
13:18:07 <Joshue108> It was suggested there needs to be a rebalancing
13:18:16 <Joshue108> There is an active community group
13:18:35 <Joshue108> I noted the doc, and that it is available for comment.
13:18:38 <Joshue108> Questions?
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13:18:49 <Joshue108> agenda?
13:19:34 <Joshue108> JS: Looking at the APA TPAC wiki, it is a good place to gather things.
13:19:43 <Joshue108> If you want to add that, go for it.
13:20:01 <Joshue108> JW: We should gather these
13:20:15 <Joshue108> JS: There are issues with what is supported etc
13:20:33 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:20:33 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:20:59 <Joshue108> JW: This was a well attended and productive meeting
13:21:16 <Joshue108> We have minutes etc and we can extract issues and work on the draft
13:21:19 <scott_h> present+
13:21:26 <Joshue108> present+
13:21:40 <Joshue108> JW: We have some work to do on this.
13:21:49 <Joshue108> JS: The due date for comments is Friday
13:23:35 <Joshue108> JW: Steve where would you like to go with the feedback we got?
13:23:52 <Joshue108> SN: I need to subscribe to issues list
13:24:28 <Joshue108> JS: We can then create URIs that will show issues
13:25:07 <Joshue108> JW: From minutes we will extract issues and write issues from them.
13:25:27 <Joshue108> SN: If you want to review them and ping me - we will work out what to do.
13:25:37 <Joshue108> JW: Then we will take action to review the draft
13:25:52 <Joshue108> Next week we are at the WAI CooP project symposium
13:25:56 <Joshue108> 14 CET
13:26:08 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Shape_the_Future_Symposium_2021
13:26:25 <Joshue108> JW: So no RQTF meeting next week. Back on the 17th of Nov
13:26:40 <Joshue108> JS: Then the following week - day before Thanksgiving?
13:27:16 <Joshue108> JS: I expect that Weds the 24th will not have meetings
13:27:26 <Joshue108> JS: We can skip it ok
13:28:09 <JPaton> present+
13:28:11 <Joshue108> If we are making good progress then we may not need the meeting time.
13:28:51 <Joshue108> JW: 17th is the next
13:28:54 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:28:54 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- W3C Statements: Implications for Task Force publications. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:29:27 <Joshue108> JW: I've linked to the new process doc
13:29:42 <Joshue108> Details of what this entails are in the 2021 W3C Process document:
13:29:42 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#memo
13:30:02 <Joshue108> JW: <Gives overview>
13:30:17 <Joshue108> Now that process is in place we have discussed using this new process for our docs
13:30:42 <Joshue108> JS: It would elevate the impact of the document
13:31:02 <Joshue108> It is only a note at the moment - so the statement is more powerful.
13:31:30 <Joshue108> A W3C Statement is a Note that has been endorsed by W3C as a whole
13:32:01 <Joshue108> Cloudflare have interesting research on this, that we could introduce into the document
13:33:01 <Joshue108> SH: Very happy to help
13:33:22 <Joshue108> JW: Sounds like a good idea
13:33:25 <Joshue108> Any concerns?
13:33:46 <Joshue108> <crickets>
13:33:53 <Joshue108> JW: Seems like agreement
13:34:29 <Joshue108> RESOLUTION: RQTF will resume editing Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA with the goal of advancing to W3C statement status
13:35:31 <Joshue108> JW: Open issues?
13:35:42 <Joshue108> JS: No - they should be all responded to.
13:36:15 <Joshue108> s/RESOLUTION: RQTF will resume editing Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA with the goal of advancing to W3C statement status/
13:36:18 <Joshue108> RESOLUTION:  RQTF will resume editing Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA with the goal of advancing to W3C statement status
13:36:20 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:36:21 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Upcoming workshop on professional media production on the Web. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:37:26 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2021/03/media-production-workshop/
13:38:43 <jasonjgw> Josh: there will be an accessibility-related presentation at the workshop, and a discussion of next steps that will include authoring tool accessibility issues.
13:39:18 <jasonjgw> Josh: notes the relevance of the Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements.
13:39:27 <Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/media-production-workshop/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Asynchronization
13:40:05 <jasonjgw> The focus is on media production, hence synchronization issues are not entirely in scope - though some aspects are.
13:42:30 <Joshue108> JS: We are talking about in the can content
13:42:55 <Joshue108> So lets start authoring ASL etc, as the HTML spec will support as many as you have translations for
13:43:04 <Joshue108> Same for descriptions of video
13:43:11 <Joshue108> q?
13:43:23 <Joshue108> JS: These descriptions don't always have to be audio
13:43:46 <Joshue108> Nigel M - has flagged that he has written a library and descriptions can be added just as text
13:44:06 <Joshue108> This text track can be provided, Nigel could talk about that
13:44:21 <Joshue108> We have some big opportunity
13:45:01 <Joshue108> SN: I was looking at the website
13:46:45 <Joshue108> <co-ordinating involvement>
13:47:07 <Joshue108> <Gives overview of Sync issues>
13:48:02 <Joshue108> <Wrangles over time>
13:49:37 <Joshue108> JW: Janina will take this up in APA
13:49:45 <Joshue108> JS: Can Raja get involved?
13:50:52 <Joshue108> We will follow up with him
13:51:25 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:51:25 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Automotive accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:51:41 <Joshue108> JW:  This was an interesting meeting
13:51:54 <Joshue108> Dont recall major actions - if you know any lets discuss
13:52:14 <Joshue108> Where this hits the UI is the question..
13:52:19 <Joshue108> How is the question..
13:52:24 <Joshue108> Can we come back to this?
13:52:25 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:52:25 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- The future of accessibility APIs: possible privacy-related RQTF work. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:52:26 <Joshue108> JS: Yes
13:53:07 <janina> agenda?
13:54:02 <Joshue108> JW: There were two sessions on this
13:54:21 <Joshue108> The most relevant outcome was interest in developing a privacy related analysis
13:54:59 <Joshue108>  and the way privacy is impacted (by A11y API development)
13:55:24 <Joshue108> JS: The outcome seemed to be why are RQTF/ APA not working on this.
13:55:44 <Joshue108> There are people to recruit Lionel W - has a lot of experience in privacy
13:56:14 <Joshue108> There are also issues on future directions - there were things that fell into place around the ePub session.
13:56:20 <Joshue108> Regarding ePub
13:56:59 <Joshue108> Regarding interleaved communication - there were comments around snipping off features
13:57:10 <Joshue108> such as multi track recording environments
13:57:19 <Joshue108> Could be multiple tracks of meta data etc
13:57:31 <Joshue108> XML, or Next Gen specs for music
13:57:38 <Joshue108> Could support multiple lines of text
13:58:14 <Joshue108> <Janina gives further examples of classical music interleaving etc>
13:58:48 <Joshue108> Why not do this by abstracting the output of music into an ebook (by removing the music)
13:58:57 <Joshue108> JS: Should I write this up?
13:59:10 <Joshue108> Next Music XML markup
14:00:12 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/community/music-notation/
14:00:20 <Joshue108> MUSIC NOTATION COMMUNITY GROUP
14:00:29 <Joshue108> JS: There is a nexus here.
14:00:34 <Joshue108> SN: I'm also a part of that.
14:01:31 <Joshue108> SN: Teaches music at Louisville, Kentucky
14:01:38 <Joshue108> JOC: Sounds facinating
14:01:39 <jasonjgw> zakim, bye
14:01:39 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, SteveNoble, scott_h, Joshue, JPaton
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14:01:45 <jasonjgw> rrsagent, make minutes
14:01:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/11/03-rqtf-minutes.html jasonjgw
14:01:49 <Joshue108> s/facinating/fascinating
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