IRC log of dpvcg on 2021-10-27

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Meeting: DPVCG Meeting Call
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Chair: harsh
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Present: harsh, georg, beatriz, julian, lisha
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Date: 27 OCT 2021
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2021Oct/0010.html
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Topic: Privacy Policy concepts
12:12:00 [harsh]
email with concepts and relation to DPV https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2021Oct/0012.html
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present+: mark
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georg: this is privacy policy/notice, and based on what information should be provided as per GDPR A.13 and A.14
12:16:57 [harsh]
harsh: we need a way to 'package information' in a policy, and then that policy can be used as needed in a notice, or an agreement or documentation
12:17:19 [harsh]
harsh: so first we consider what information needs to go in and if these exist in DPV, then we can revisit specific applications like privacy notices
12:17:51 [harsh]
(shared screen showing concepts in spreadsheet)
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georg: Expressing a policy is for a specific scope or context, e.g. for specific data subjects. It would be better if this was expressed by/in the policy itself.
12:19:37 [harsh]
mark: in consent receipts, we've added notice location and info about whether person has read the notice or the sign
12:24:00 [harsh]
harsh: is this a need for associating specific metadata defining scope for policy or a general description that can be done in text?
12:25:01 [harsh]
georg: there is a need to associate with specific concepts, e.g. category of data subject
12:34:03 [harsh]
mark: (discussion on notice and notice location)
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mark: DPV should draw from other jurisdictions/laws besides GDPR e.g. Canada has higher requirements for consent than GDPR
12:35:03 [harsh]
harsh: DPVCG welcomes inputs from other jurisdictions, and specifically asks for submitting contributions similar to DPV-GDPR
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harsh: next concept - hasPersonalDataHandling to link PDH to a Policy or to another PDH
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georg: how to uniquely identify a PDH? Does it have a name or an id?
12:39:05 [harsh]
harsh: in sem-web, the IRI is the unique identity, but in case this is a non-sem-web implementation, then hasName or hasIdentifier could be used
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georg: how to explain PDH to humans? where is the description?
12:39:52 [harsh]
harsh: in sem-web, you can annotate a PDH with label + description to summarise and provide overview respectively
13:04:00 [harsh]
harsh: for expressing country, it would be better to express it as Jurisdiction first and then derive Country or other jurisdictional categories from it
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harsh: So for properties, there would be hasJurisdiction and hasCountry (as country is necessary in many use-cases)
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harsh: the term 'Country' though has a clash with PersonalDataCategory of same name.
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harsh: Additionally, the use of 'country' could be country where an entity is based in, headquartered, operates in, etc. So tricky to model this.
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For authority, we add property hasAuthority to enable linking authorities to relevant concepts
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Topic: Next Meeting
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We will meet again in +1 week, on NOV-03 at 13:00 WET / 14:00 CET
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Note the time changes due to end of daylight saving time
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We will continue discussion on these concepts, and AOB
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zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been harsh, georg, beatriz, julian, lisha, :, mark
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