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13:09:56 <kaz> meeting: WoT Plugfest
13:10:24 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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13:10:57 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
13:10:57 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:11:24 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/13-wot-pf-minutes.html
13:11:28 <mjk_> topic: minutes review from October 13
13:11:36 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_20.10.2021
13:11:38 <mjk_> mm: any objections to publishing?
13:11:49 <kaz> s/topic: minutes review from October 13//
13:11:54 <kaz> i/minutes/topic: minutes review from October 13/
13:12:01 <kaz> s/https/Agenda: https/
13:12:06 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:12:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:12:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:12:28 <mjk_> topic: PR #197
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13:13:48 <mjk_> mm: toumura-san, what are you using if not node-wot?
13:14:12 <mjk_> toumura: We use Node-RED
13:14:26 <kaz> i|toumura-san|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/197 Oct 2021 Test Data Reorg #197|
13:15:12 <mjk_> mm: we could group all NOde-RED implementations together
13:15:32 <kaz> s/NOde/Node/
13:15:56 <mjk_> toumura: our system is IDF - IoT Development Framework
13:16:59 <mjk_> mm: IDF it will be counted as another implementation, so now we have 12
13:18:25 <mjk_> mm: only Intel provided manual assertions
13:19:13 <mjk_> ... where we are missing is mostly new features
13:19:45 <mjk_> ... concerned about missing the assertions in csv files
13:20:01 <mjk_> ... need to use the new template
13:20:56 <mjk_> ... in McCool's branch
13:22:39 <mjk_> ... the filename is manual.csv
13:22:41 <kaz> q+
13:23:47 <kaz> qq+ ryuichi
13:23:51 <kaz> ack r
13:23:51 <Zakim> ryuichi, you wanted to react to a previous speaker
13:23:59 <mjk_> mm: are Fujitsu and NHK separate implementations ?
13:24:58 <mjk_> Matsukura-san: Fujitsu is our own implementation
13:25:16 <mjk_> kaz: NHK is their own implementation also
13:25:18 <kaz> ack k
13:26:11 <mjk_> mm: a number of TDs don't have physical devices associated, may move those out
13:27:08 <mjk_> ... will re-run the report
13:27:34 <kaz> s/NHK is their own implementation also/my understanding is that NHK and ECHONET are also their own implementations./
13:28:22 <kaz> q?
13:29:14 <kaz> q+ to ask when/how to update the result data, e.g., can wait until we copy the testing tool resources to the wot-tools repo?
13:29:16 <mjk_> ... topic: review the report generator workflow
13:29:33 <kaz> s/... topic/topic/
13:29:45 <mjk_> ... this should be generalized to be used for discovery, etc.
13:30:16 <mjk_> ... will create a new repository for the tool so it can be used in many other testing use cases
13:30:56 <mjk_> ... input and results directory are now manually copied but would be better as a submodule
13:31:44 <mjk_> ... Kaz, is this OK?
13:32:40 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-tools
13:33:02 <mjk_> ... the tools repository already exists and you should have permission to merge there
13:33:34 <kaz> i/wot-tools/kaz: putting the necessary tooling resources under a specific repository would be nice/
13:33:43 <kaz> i/putting/scribenick: kaz/
13:34:04 <kaz> i/any objections to/scribenick: mjk_/
13:34:23 <kaz> i/... the tools/mm: the tools/
13:34:46 <kaz> s/mm: the tools//
13:34:57 <kaz> s/... the tools/mm: the tools/
13:35:16 <kaz> i/the tools/scribenick: mjk_/
13:35:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:35:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:35:32 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:35:34 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:35:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:36:01 <kaz> ack k
13:36:01 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask when/how to update the result data, e.g., can wait until we copy the testing tool resources to the wot-tools repo?
13:36:46 <mjk_> kaz: we need to now ask everyone to update their results
13:37:19 <mjk_> mm: I still need to fix up some things first and then will invite everyone to update by next week
13:37:41 <kaz> chair: McCool
13:37:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:37:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:38:30 <mjk_> mm: are there any more implementation of features needed?
13:38:44 <mjk_> ... security features, additional responses
13:38:49 <kaz> i/topic: PR #197/(no objections, and approved)/
13:38:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:38:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:38:54 <mjk_> ... support for directory TD
13:39:04 <mjk_> ... bearer schemes
13:39:15 <mjk_> ... Echonet
13:39:30 <mjk_> ... are all places where we could get more coverage
13:40:01 <mjk_> kaz: maybe they are already using node-wot
13:40:20 <mjk_> mm: but maybe they are using features not covered in other implementations
13:40:39 <mjk_> mm: more coverage over one code base
13:40:45 <kaz> s/maybe/Netzo/
13:40:56 <kaz> s/they are/ are/
13:41:28 <kaz> s/are using/is using/
13:41:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:41:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/20-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:42:17 <mjk_> mm: will publish an email request for assertions next week
13:42:40 <mjk_> ... finally there are implementation descriptions
13:43:09 <mjk_> ... will fill in some place holders and we can review and fill in the blanks later
13:43:23 <kaz> s/Netzo is/maybe they are/
13:43:43 <mjk_> mm: any other business?
13:43:46 <kaz> s/maybe they are/Netzo mentioned they were/
13:43:54 <mjk_> mm: adjourned
13:43:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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