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06:36:17 <xfq> Meeting: Converting Tools for MiniApp
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07:05:48 <xfq> qing: brief intro to MiniApps
07:05:57 <xfq> ... introduce existing status to this tool
07:06:10 <xfq> ... zitao and dan will provide some demo
07:06:26 <xfq> ... @@
07:06:36 <xfq> topic: brief intro of MiniApps@w3c
07:07:01 <xfq> [qing shares his screen]
07:07:17 <xfq> qing: i'll give a brief overview of MiniApps
07:07:30 <xfq> ... i'm qing an from alibaba group, cochair of MiniApp cg
07:07:43 <xfq> ... in the white paper we described what is MiniApp
07:07:57 <xfq> ... MiniApp is a new format of mobile app
07:08:06 <xfq> ... running on top of native app or OS
07:08:19 <xfq> ... leveraging both Web technologies and native capabilities
07:09:01 <xfq> ... there are many MiniApp vendors
07:09:09 <xfq> ... working together in w3c to try to define standard for MiniApps
07:09:25 <xfq> ... for users, developers, and vendors
07:09:46 <xfq> [show three use cases]
07:10:08 <xfq> [buy train tickets]
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07:10:41 <Louay> Present+ Louay_Bassbouss
07:11:03 <xfq> [rent a bicycle]
07:11:28 <xfq> [call a cab]
07:11:38 <xfq> present+ yanyumeng
07:11:49 <xfq> present+ Roy
07:11:53 <xfq> present+ xiaoqian
07:11:56 <xfq> present+ wanming
07:12:02 <xfq> present+ dan
07:12:11 <xfq> present+ yefeng
07:12:19 <xfq> qing: MiniApps are web-like
07:12:25 <xfq> ... small package
07:12:33 <xfq> ... support streaming
07:12:46 <xfq> ... support native api with permission
07:13:02 <xfq> ... have high-level components
07:14:02 <xfq> [slide: launching a MiniApp]
07:14:52 <xfq> [show MiniApp specs in development]
07:15:27 <xfq> qing: lifecycle, manifest, packaging in the wg
07:15:36 <xfq> ... and addressing and widget
07:15:51 <xfq> ... UI components and IoT in the CG
07:16:47 <xfq> topic: demo
07:17:14 <xfq> zitao: i'm zitao wang, co-chairing the MiniApps wg
07:17:34 <xfq> ... after a year of development, the MiniApp standard is still different from the impls
07:18:03 <xfq> ... we decided to make some demo to show how to convert standard MiniApp to vendor-specific implementations
07:18:56 <xfq> [zitao introduces Harmony OS JS FA]
07:19:08 <xfq> zitao: harmony OS JS FA is a kind of MiniApp
07:19:29 <xfq> ... relies on Harmony OS instead of "super app"
07:20:19 <xfq> ... @@
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07:20:46 <xfq> ... in harmony OS JS FA there's a config file similar to the standardized MiniApp manifest
07:21:01 <xfq> ... similar but different
07:21:10 <xfq> present+ yajun_chen
07:21:35 <xfq> [slide: gaps and design methods]
07:22:06 <xfq> [zitao introduces the difference between the two formats]
07:22:43 <xfq> present+ aaron
07:23:04 <xfq> [Demo time]
07:23:09 <xfq> zitao: i made some videos
07:27:43 <xfq> present+ takio
07:27:51 <xfq> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
07:29:39 <xfq> [debugging demo issues]
07:30:37 <xfq> zitao: unfortunately the demo is not working, we will share the videos of slides and demos with you after the meeting.
07:30:56 <xfq> s/the videos of slides and demos/the slides and videos of demos/
07:32:06 <xfq> dan: baidu has also implemented a MiniApp converter
07:32:34 <xfq> [show Baidu MiniApp IDE]
07:33:24 <xfq> [simulator, editor, and debug tool]
07:34:25 <xfq> [Show Baidu MiniApp project structure]
07:35:41 <xfq> dan: let's take a look at the Baidu MiniApp app.json
07:35:50 <xfq> ... and the standard manifest.json
07:36:01 <xfq> ... they have some common members
07:36:30 <xfq> present+ shane
07:36:50 <xfq> dan: here's a demo of manifest converter
07:36:55 <xfq> [show demo]
07:41:49 <xfq> present+ alex
07:43:12 <xfq> dan: using this tool, developers can use the standardized manifest as early as possible
07:43:36 <xfq> q?
07:45:02 <xfq> zitao: i'll share the slides and videos publicly
07:45:40 <xfq> ... hope we can have a toolchain for converting standard MiniApps to vendor-specific ones
07:46:03 <xfq> xiaoqian: you mentioned after the breakout session you'll share the video and slides
07:46:12 <xfq> ... do you plan to open-source the tool?
07:46:15 <xfq> zitao: yes
07:46:52 <xfq> ... But time is limited, we haven't made our code public yet. We will promote the open source of the code.
07:47:29 <xfq> q?
07:51:19 <xfq> present+ zhenjie
07:51:56 <xfq> [Zitao shows the demo again]
07:54:38 <xfq> zitao: https://github.com/w3c/miniapp/issues/170
07:54:49 <xfq> ... if you have new ideas, please comment on ^
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