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12:01:27 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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12:03:41 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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12:08:11 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
12:08:24 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:08:39 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
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12:09:48 <sebastian> topic: minutes review
12:10:05 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
12:10:24 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/06-wot-minutes.html Oct-6
12:10:33 <sebastian> minutes from last main call https://www.w3.org/2021/10/06-wot-minutes.html
12:11:58 <sebastian> any comments, objections?
12:12:01 <kaz> s|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/10/06-wot-minutes.html Oct-6||
12:12:09 <sebastian> no
12:12:42 <sebastian> we need to check the minutes from 1st open day https://www.w3.org/2021/10/11-wot-minutes.html
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12:19:52 <sebastian>   any comments, objections?
12:19:59 <sebastian> no
12:20:31 <sebastian> topic: Quick updates
12:20:38 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
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12:21:21 <sebastian> MM: I was ask to be part of the panel on IoT security at IoT Tech Expo Europe, Nov 30
12:21:55 <sebastian> MM: any news from WoT Japanese CG?
12:22:22 <sebastian> Tomoaki: Currently prepearing some slide for the TPAC meeting
12:22:31 <sebastian> s/slide/slides
12:22:59 <kaz> s/TPAC meeting/CG report during the WoT vF2F on Oct 26th./
12:23:30 <sebastian> MM: Ege will start chairing Testing call after the TPAC meetings
12:24:47 <sebastian> MM: This week no TF calls. Next week it is planed to have again regular meetings.
12:25:43 <sebastian> ML: We need to cancel Arch/Profile meeting next week due to an conflict
12:26:02 <kaz> q+
12:26:05 <sebastian> s/an/a
12:26:39 <sebastian> Kaz: Which meetings are cancelled?
12:27:28 <sebastian> MM: So far only Arch/Profile is cancelled
12:28:11 <sebastian> Kaz: There may a conflict with the TD call since there is a TPAC breakout session
12:28:32 <sebastian> ... maybe it is possible to have the call for the first hour
12:28:53 <sebastian> topic: TPAC status and planning
12:29:06 <kaz> i/TPAC/kaz: please note that we should avoid overlaps for the weeks of Oct 18-22 and Oct 25-29, basically/
12:29:41 <sebastian> MM: Tomorrow we have the open day with Netzo and ECHONET. Not sure about SDW yet
12:30:31 <kaz> s/have/will have/
12:30:45 <kaz> s/open day/open day (day 2)/
12:31:20 <kaz> q+
12:33:00 <kaz> ack k
12:35:38 <sebastian> MM: shows the latest schedule of the next TPAC meetings
12:35:58 <sebastian> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_October_2021#Oct_14_-_Open_Day
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12:38:30 <sebastian> MM: ITU-T want to announce 2month in advance about a joint meeing, we are not sure if this still possible for the Dec 13 meeting
12:39:40 <sebastian> MM: T2TRG will take place on Oct 28, we will have ECHONET presentation tomorrow, and OPC UA will also take place Oct 28
12:41:26 <kaz> topic: Smart Cities
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12:41:38 <kaz> kaz: breakout session on @@@
12:42:17 <sebastian> topic: Testing Report
12:42:36 <sebastian> MM: I provided a PR for the latest testing report
12:42:37 <kaz> s/@@@/Oct 18 at 15UTC and Oct 21 14UTC. Please get registered with them on CVent by searching for "Smart Cities"./
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12:43:15 <sebastian> ... as you can see some tests failed,  implementations needed
12:43:15 <kaz> i/breakout/scribenick: kaz/
12:43:27 <kaz> i/provided/scribenick: sebastian/
12:43:30 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1245
12:43:35 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:43:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:43:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:44:40 <kaz> chair: McCool/Sebastian
12:45:21 <sebastian> ML: how about profile testing?
12:45:24 <sebastian> q+
12:47:50 <kaz> q+
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12:49:48 <kaz> ack s
12:50:11 <dape> q+
12:50:24 <Ege> q+
12:53:02 <sebastian> I think, we need to have a stable version of the Profile befor going to implementation
12:53:50 <sebastian> ML: I do not share this. The protocol binding part is stable, but, the data model part needs further clearification.
12:54:04 <sebastian> ack k
12:54:05 <sebastian> ack e
12:54:37 <sebastian> ack
12:55:07 <kaz> kaz: Before discussing how to test the Profile spec, we should fix the content of the spec itself. So I'd suggest we should continue collaborative discussion during the Editors call.
12:55:38 <kaz> q?
12:55:56 <kaz> q+ to mention I'll generate a doodle poll to see the better slot for the Editors call
12:56:02 <sebastian> Daniel: I have similar point like Ege, actions is kind of underspecified in the TD. In the Profile a specific behavoir is expected
12:56:17 <kaz> ack d
12:56:26 <sebastian> ack d
12:56:34 <kaz> ack k
12:56:34 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention I'll generate a doodle poll to see the better slot for the Editors call
12:57:19 <kaz> q+
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12:57:27 <kaz> topic: Publication planning
12:59:58 <kaz> kaz: regarding the WG Chartering, do we prefer 6-month extension before rechartering to officially re-chartered?
13:00:01 <sebastian> Kaz: we need to clearify about the recharter or about charter extension
13:01:02 <kaz> s/about the/which way to go,/
13:01:13 <kaz> s/or about/or/
13:01:27 <sebastian> adjourn
13:01:35 <kaz> [Plugfest call in 10mins]
13:01:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:01:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
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