13:08:08 RRSAgent has joined #wot-pf 13:08:08 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/10/06-wot-pf-irc 13:09:39 ktoumura has joined #wot-pf 13:09:43 meeting: WoT Plugfest/Testfest 13:11:09 McCool has joined #wot-pf 13:11:12 Mizushima has joined #wot-pf 13:11:16 sebastian has joined #wot-pf 13:12:13 https://www.w3.org/2021/09/22-wot-pf-minutes.html 13:12:28 https://www.w3.org/2021/09/27-wot-pf-minutes.html 13:12:31 cris_ has joined #wot-pf 13:12:34 https://www.w3.org/2021/09/28-wot-pf-minutes.html 13:12:41 https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-pf-minutes.html 13:12:50 https://www.w3.org/2021/09/30-wot-pf-minutes.html 13:12:57 https://www.w3.org/2021/10/01-wot-pf-minutes.html 13:14:49 dape has joined #wot-pf 13:15:15 chair: McCool 13:16:13 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Marcus_Shmidt, Michael_Lagally, Michael_Koster, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:17:44 ryuichi has joined #wot-pf 13:18:27 q+ 13:20:18 present+ Fady_Salama 13:20:46 present- Marcus_Shmidt 13:20:51 present+ Marcus_Schmidt 13:21:14 ack k 13:21:29 topic: How to wrap up the Plugfest results 13:22:06 kaz: would suggest we ask all the participants to summarize their projects within a few mins (5mins at max) 13:22:24 ... and then review the final results on the interop testing GH issue 13:22:43 mm: (updates the agenda for the Oct-28 meeting) 13:23:02 i/How to/topic: Agenda for today/ 13:23:25 i/How to/Ege: Marcus would like to give presentation today/ 13:25:17 mm: or we could do the report on each project during the Open Day on Monday, Oct 11 13:25:36 kaz: assuming the proposed T2TRG joint discussion won't happen? 13:25:38 mm: right 13:26:07 q+ 13:26:34 ack k 13:26:53 kaz: in that case, the interop testing part should be also handled on Monday, Oct 11 13:27:05 ... and we can concentrate on Testing results on 28th 13:27:08 mm: ok 13:27:45 ... (moved both the project reports and interop testing report to Oct 11) 13:28:25 ... anything else to be updated? 13:28:29 (none) 13:28:36 mm: is this OK? 13:28:39 ek: yes 13:29:29 ... note that we used to have presentations from each project participant 13:29:48 kaz: right. that's why I asked about possible presentations in general at the beginning 13:30:40 i/How to/kaz: that's fine but I'm wondering if we would like to ask all the project participants to give talks (if we could that would be ideal, though)/ 13:32:17 topic: Summary of the results 13:32:26 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2021.09.Online main page 13:32:34 mm: the network diagram has been updated 13:33:03 topic: PRs 13:33:15 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/186 Update 2021.09.Online Plugfest TD Testing Results #186 13:33:21 mm: copy of manual assertions 13:35:14 ... (shoes the update.log) 13:35:23 https://github.com/thingweb/thingweb-playground/tree/v1.1-testfest1 13:36:50 sorry, I need to go. Bye 13:38:48 mm: will read the documentation... 13:38:49 cris has joined #wot-pf 13:39:17 ... maybe I'm still looking at an old version of playground 13:39:56 q? 13:40:25 q+ 13:40:49 kaz: so you (McCool) will work with Ege to fix the problem. right? 13:40:53 mm: yes 13:41:48 ... note that more than one organization might use the same implementation, e.g., node-wot 13:42:33 kaz: do you have information on who uses what? 13:43:34 ... maybe you can ask the participants for clarification, can't you? 13:43:46 mm: there is some information there 13:44:56 ... within the impl.csv 13:45:38 kaz: maybe we can ask all the participants to add an additional column to that file, e.g., "base of implementation" 13:46:17 ek: yeah, we can use "basis" or something like that 13:46:57 mm: if that column is empty the implementation is that organization's original one 13:47:49 kaz: and you can provide a few candidate categories for the "basis" field 13:47:52 mm: yeah 13:49:33 ack k 13:51:04 ... would call the current "Implementations" "Systems" 13:51:19 ... and "basis" as "Implementations" 13:52:15 kaz: this is a same issue as the browser engines, e.g., Chrome-based and Webkit-based 13:52:24 ... so this change is the right direction 13:52:28 mm: ok 13:52:59 ... will update the script to handle this change 13:53:38 kaz: and you can ask all the participants to clarify their implementation basis :) 13:53:54 mm: yeah 13:54:04 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1239 13:54:15 ... (creating a PR to update the imple.csv template) 13:54:18 s/.../mm:/ 13:54:50 topic: AOB 13:55:18 kaz: Ege and Marcus, would it be OK for you to to give your presentation on your project on Monday, Oct 11? 13:55:40 ... actually, that would be more beneficial to do that on Monday :) 13:56:08 ek_ms: ok 13:57:15 ms: btw, if you want me to test some more Intel devices, e.g., camera device, please let me know 13:57:31 mm: (shows the TD for camera) 13:57:38 ... using digest security option 13:58:27 ... will send the schedule update to the WoT Members lists (and the IE list) 13:59:08 [adjourned] 13:59:15 rrsagent, make log public 13:59:17 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:59:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/10/06-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 16:20:35 Zakim has left #wot-pf