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12:58:22 <kaz> present: WoT Plugfest/Testfest - Day 3
12:58:34 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan
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12:59:28 <kaz> present+ Van_Cu_Pham
13:03:02 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:03:12 <kaz> present+ Philipp_Blum
13:04:11 <kaz> present+ Farshid_Tavakolizadeh
13:04:49 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
13:05:40 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_29.09.2021
13:05:54 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann
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13:07:00 <dape> TOPIC: Logistics
13:07:11 <dape> MMC: no news
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13:07:33 <kaz> q?
13:07:34 <dape> ... w.r.t. VPN, did not use it yet
13:07:35 <kaz> q+
13:08:03 <dape> PB: issues connecting VPN, might be related to my router
13:08:19 <dape> MMC: Who is on VPN
13:08:25 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2021.09.Online Plugfest page
13:08:34 <kaz> s/page/page listing VPN participants/
13:08:34 <dape> Kaz: Echonet, Tomura-SAN
13:08:41 <dape> q?
13:08:58 <kaz> q-
13:09:02 <dape> ack kaz
13:09:13 <dape> TOPIC: PRs
13:09:27 <kaz> s/Echonet,/there is a diagram including the VPN participants by/
13:09:36 <dape> MMC: Intel TDs still need to be fixed
13:09:49 <dape> MMC: Update from Siemens
13:09:56 <kaz> present+ Christian_Glomb
13:10:09 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
13:10:22 <dape> ... readme, active devices and link
13:10:29 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaeibisch
13:10:35 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:10:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:10:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:11:14 <dape> DP: linked the sub-projects to avoid duplicate content
13:11:24 <kaz> i/Intel/subtopic: PR 165 from Intel/
13:11:30 <kaz> i|Intel|https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/165|
13:11:32 <dape> MMC: Yes, makes sense to consolidate data
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13:12:21 <kaz> i|Update from Siemens|subtopic: PR 171 from Siemens|
13:12:27 <kaz> i|Update from Siemens|https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/165|
13:12:30 <dape> MMC: Diagram an root README includes all devices. Nice!
13:12:54 <kaz> i|Diagram|subtopic: PR 172 from Hitachi|
13:12:56 <dape> ... Next, PR#172 from Hitachi
13:13:45 <kaz> i|Diagram|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/172|
13:14:54 <dape> MMC: Issue with @type and TDD
13:15:27 <dape> ... issue created, see https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/224
13:15:30 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/224 new issue 224 on wot-discovery about that point
13:15:52 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
13:15:52 <dape> CG: Question: what is the right context to be used for TDD
13:16:01 <dape> ... ns/td or /td/v1
13:16:25 <dape> MMC: Should resolve to the same context file
13:16:36 <dape> ... need to check spec
13:16:58 <dape> SK: At the moment we do have temporary context file
13:18:04 <dape> ... for 1.1. there will be 2022 namespace
13:18:26 <dape> CG: TD spec uses /ns/td
13:18:35 <dape> SK: Only the editor draft
13:19:12 <kaz> q+
13:20:14 <dape> MMC: let's merge https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/172
13:20:30 <dape> Kaz: We should be clear about namespace for PlugFest
13:20:41 <dape> ... maybe adding a note in README
13:21:23 <dape> MMC: PR by NHK looks fine, merge https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/173
13:21:27 <kaz> "https://www.w3.org/ns/td"
13:23:40 <dape> DP: I think "https://www.w3.org/ns/td" always points to latest context
13:24:00 <kaz> ver 1.0 spec REC uses "https://www.w3.org/2019/wot/td/v1"
13:24:25 <kaz> ver 1.0 spec ED uses "https://www.w3.org/ns/td"
13:25:08 <dape> MMC: Everyone should check TDs w.r.t. to context otherwise SPARQL does not work properly
13:25:13 <dape> TOPIC: Issues
13:25:26 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Size of wot-testing repo
13:25:36 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/170
13:25:51 <dape> MMC: I think we can delete branches, did so already
13:25:53 <kaz> present+ David_Ezell
13:26:22 <dape> ... Ege mentions we should not use PDFs or PPTX et cetera
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13:27:38 <Ege> q+
13:27:43 <kaz> ack k
13:27:45 <kaz> q+
13:27:49 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
13:28:08 <dape> ... for the next PlugFest we might need to find a solution
13:28:41 <dape> FT: CI copies 1 level only, no history
13:28:41 <kaz> ack Ege
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13:29:09 <dape> Ege: don't think we should use GH for history
13:29:16 <sebastian> sorry i need to go
13:29:24 <dape> ... at some point it will be a problem
13:30:06 <kaz> s/sorry i need to go/(Sebastian leaves)/
13:30:58 <dape> Kaz: I think the biggest problem is to decide where to put data (in which repo)
13:31:29 <dape> ... maybe wot-testing should contain only bare stuff for testing
13:32:09 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Siemens / Logilab TDD
13:32:13 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/168
13:32:22 <dape> MMC: partial TDD
13:32:41 <dape> ... is anyone registering to this directory?
13:33:03 <dape> CG: not sure... but I can upload TDs
13:34:31 <dape> FT: cloud version is not running
13:34:40 <dape> ... can expose local version
13:34:52 <kaz> s/Siemens/Project: Siemens/
13:35:04 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:35:55 <dape> MMC: link-smart directory service up would be great
13:36:54 <dape> ... could register TDs and see if we encounter issues (with the script we had)
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13:37:29 <dape> FT: The script could be used for *any* directory... not just link-smart
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13:37:43 <FarshidT> sync script: https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2020.06.Online/tools/directory-sync
13:38:07 <dape> KT: I use SPARQL at the moment
13:38:22 <dape> MMC: Siemens TDD does not support JSON path
13:39:01 <dape> ... we might look at test results for support
13:39:10 <kaz> q+
13:40:26 <dape> FT: Note: Link-Smart is open-source but Fraunhofer might stop working on it
13:40:37 <dape> ... I will create clone and continue working on it
13:42:28 <dape> CG: will take a look at script to upload TDs
13:45:18 <kaz> q?
13:46:04 <dape> Kaz: I think we should start looking *who* wants to connect which device etc
13:46:24 <dape> MMC: Good point, lets create issue
13:46:39 <kaz> i/I think/topic: Next steps/
13:47:05 <kaz> ack k
13:47:22 <dape> MMC: idea is to add a note to the issue. In the we should be able to create table
13:48:34 <dape> s/In the we/In the end we
13:49:30 <dape> KT: ECHONET devices were connected from NodeRED
13:51:51 <kaz> s/devices/devices (LED, air conditioner, sensors)/
13:51:56 <dape> MMC: planned to do Geolocation test (not sure if I manage)
13:52:20 <dape> EK: My student from TUM did some tests
13:52:22 <kaz> q+
13:52:52 <dape> ...testing all devices
13:53:28 <dape> Kaz: We should clarify what "device" ...not just ECHONET but rather LED-X
13:54:12 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/events/2021.09.Online/plugfestnet.svg network connection diagram
13:55:09 <kaz> s/not just ECHONET but rather LED-X/not just ECHONET or TUM but rather LED and coffee machine/
13:55:17 <dape> Ege: student will add documentation to this issue, see https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/174
13:55:45 <dape> Kaz: NHK is providing virtual twins
13:56:40 <dape> PB: failed connecting Arduino / RIoT
13:57:26 <dape> ... tried OpenVPN client... but router does not interconnect properly
13:58:34 <dape> Kaz: using mobile phone connection might be a possibility
13:58:45 <dape> PB: Good point, will look into
13:59:27 <kaz> s/virtual twins/digital twins via their emulator. will ask them to clarify the detail./
13:59:38 <dape> CA: Unibo Farm is online
13:59:53 <dape> ... at the moment I look into node-wot and actions
14:00:09 <dape> ... tested SPARQL also but run into some issues
14:00:57 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:01:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:01:43 <kaz> chair: McCool
14:01:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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