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12:04:57 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
12:05:15 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#29_September_2021
12:05:20 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:05:28 <kaz> s/https/Agenda: https/
12:06:37 <kaz> scribenick: Ege
12:07:39 <kaz> Midea group from China as an observer for TPAC vF2F
12:07:58 <kaz> i/Midea/topic: Preliminary/
12:08:01 <kaz> ok/
12:09:03 <Ege> Topic: Minutes
12:09:14 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/09/22-wot-minutes.html Sep-22
12:09:21 <Ege> mm: I would like to get the schedule sorted out for F2F
12:09:43 <kaz> s|ok/|approved|
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12:10:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:11:22 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:11:36 <Ege> Topic: Quick Updates
12:11:42 <kaz> Chair: McCool
12:12:00 <kaz> i/Midea group/scribenick: kaz/
12:12:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:12:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:12:32 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
12:12:34 <Ege> mm: any updates on the japanese cg
12:12:54 <Ege> tm: We will have activities on October
12:12:58 <Ege> mm: There is a slot in F2F
12:13:04 <kaz> s/on O/in O/
12:13:22 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
12:13:30 <Ege> mm: we are in contact with netzo and takenaka corporation for participation in the f2f
12:13:58 <kaz> s/f2f/OpenDay/
12:14:13 <mlagally> q+
12:14:22 <kaz> topic: TPAC
12:15:29 <Ege> Topic: Schedule of TPAC WoT Meetings
12:15:40 <kaz> s/topic: TPAC//
12:15:55 <Ege> ml: Connexxus presented their agenda for the F2F yesterday
12:16:19 <kaz> s/Connexxus/Conexxus/
12:16:53 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/09/28-wot-uc-minutes.html Sep-28 Use Case call minutes
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12:17:42 <Ege> ml: conexxus can be 10-20 minutes. they said 10
12:18:27 <kaz> q+
12:18:30 <kaz> ack ml
12:19:11 <kaz> ack k
12:19:36 <Ege> mm: I am trying to get t2trg to join us, part of open day
12:21:00 <Ege> mm: anything else for the agenda?
12:21:46 <kaz> topic: OpenDay
12:21:49 <kaz> -> https://doodle.com/poll/ms6ywyka5zpbhib7#table Doodle
12:22:06 <kaz> i/OpenDay/(none)/
12:22:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:22:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:23:07 <Ege> mm: arturo from netzo does not have availabilty on wednesday and thursday. Maybe a smallermeeting another time or doing the industry day on tuesday
12:23:22 <kaz> q+
12:23:34 <kaz> q-
12:25:10 <Ege> mm: then let's do tuesday
12:25:16 <Ege> ... we can squeeze t2trg
12:25:29 <Ege> kaz: only problem with tuesday is the overlap with ac meeting
12:26:56 <Ege> mm: we can leave takenaka on monday and do netzo on tuesday
12:27:09 <Ege> brb
12:27:58 <kaz> sk: asking netzo about their availability on Monday to make sure
12:28:01 <kaz> s/brb//
12:29:01 <kaz> mm: please get registered with TPAC anyway
12:29:22 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/register/tpac2021virtual registration site
12:29:46 <kaz> kaz: this time get registered twice, one for the W3C site and second for the Cevent site
12:30:27 <kaz> mm: what about ECHONET?
12:30:38 <kaz> kaz: can join on Thursday, Oct 14
12:30:52 <Ege> I am back and can take minutes again
12:31:05 <kaz> mm: let's summarize the situation on the wiki about the participation
12:31:19 <kaz> scrbenick: asking/scribenick: kaz/
12:31:23 <kaz> scribnick: Ege
12:31:43 <Ege> mm: how much time we need for each of these
12:31:49 <kaz> s/I am back and can take minutes again//
12:32:48 <Ege> mm: for echonet, do we have a structure
12:34:01 <Ege> mm: t2trg and did can take long
12:34:34 <kaz> i/t2t/kaz: 1h consisting of 30min pres and 30min discussion should be OK. will check with them./
12:35:47 <Ege> mm: sdw can be used for conflicts
12:37:14 <Ege> mm: it would be good to put the conflicting meetings in the schedule
12:38:11 <kaz> i/it would/kaz: regarding smart cities, I'd invite the workshop participants to the breakout session instead of the OpenDay given the agenda is getting full./
12:38:22 <kaz> topic: Chartering
12:38:25 <kaz> subtopic: IG Charter
12:39:06 <kaz> ->https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/986 IG Charter updates based on the W3M review
12:39:14 <Ege> mm: moving marketing to CG should be considered
12:41:48 <Ege> kaz: actually security should be in the IG but we published the work as wg
12:43:05 <Ege> mm: should scripting be in ig as well
12:43:21 <Ege> q+
12:44:05 <kaz> s/actually security should be/security consideration Note could have been/
12:44:40 <kaz> s/as wg/as a WG Note. The Security Best Practices, etc., still can be published as IG work, though./
12:45:10 <kaz> q+
12:45:13 <kaz> ack e
12:46:10 <mlagally> q+
12:46:56 <Ege> ege: binding is also in wg but not rec track
12:47:30 <Ege> ... I still do not understand the benefits of putting spec documents into ig, wg, cg. Can cg make a rec track document?
12:47:35 <Ege> kaz: no
12:47:35 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2019/10/wot-ig-2019-relationship.png diagram
12:48:22 <kaz> ack k
12:49:47 <kaz> kaz: would suggest we don't add drastic changes at this stage
12:50:14 <kaz> s/stage/stage but just add some clarification to PLH's questions, i.e., plugfest and marketing work./
12:50:21 <kaz> ack ml
12:50:36 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:50:41 <kaz> topic: Editors call
12:50:58 <kaz> i/marketing work/marketing work based on the diagram above/
12:51:09 <Ege> (forgot to take notes sorry)
12:51:37 <Ege> ml: I have proposed to have editor's call weekly until the tpac to improve all the documents
12:51:56 <Ege> mm: architecture is still the hub for terminology right? the other specifications follow those
12:52:41 <Ege> ml: tomorrow we have 1 hour architecture call, just a reminder that it is not cancelled
12:53:03 <kaz> i/tomorrow/topic: TFs/
12:53:59 <kaz> topic: Liaison
12:54:22 <kaz> mm: will continue to work on OGC liaison, etc.
12:54:28 <kaz> topic: AOB?
12:54:41 <kaz> sk: same webex for Plugfest today?
12:54:48 <kaz> mm: not another dedicated one
12:54:56 <kaz> ... please see the plugfest page
12:55:33 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2021.09.Online Plugfest page
12:55:36 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:55:41 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
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12:55:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:56:34 <kaz> i/I would like to get the/scribenick: Ege/
12:56:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:56:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:57:48 <kaz> i/asking netzo/scribenick: kaz/
12:57:55 <kaz> i/how much time/scribenick: Ege/
12:57:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:57:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:59:11 <kaz> i/(none)/scribenick: kaz/
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12:59:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:00:00 <kaz> i/arturo from/scribenick: Ege/
13:00:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:01:38 <kaz> s/scrbenick/scribenick/
13:01:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:05:43 <kaz> s/scribnick/scribenick/
14:05:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:05:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:05:58 <kaz> i/1h consisting of/scribenick: kaz/
14:06:13 <kaz> i/t2trg and did/scribenick: Ege/
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14:06:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:06:26 <kaz> i/regarding smart/scribenick: kaz/
14:06:40 <kaz> i/it would be good/scribenick: Ege/
14:06:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:06:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:07:31 <kaz> s/marketing work based on the diagram above//
14:07:49 <kaz> s/plugfest and marketing work/plugfest and marketing work based on the diagram above/
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14:07:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:08:28 <kaz> i/would suggest we/scribenick: kaz/
14:08:43 <kaz> s/(forgot to take notes sorry)//
14:08:59 <kaz> i/ have proposed to/scribenick: Ege/
14:09:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:09:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:09:21 <kaz> i/will continue to work on OGC/scribenick: kaz/
14:09:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:09:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/29-wot-minutes.html kaz
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