IRC log of MiniApp on 2021-09-23

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Meeting: MiniApps WG Call
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present+
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present+ Martin_Alvarez
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present+ zhangwenli
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present+ changhao_liang
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present+ tengyuan
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present+ tomayac
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present+ qing
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present+ max
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present+ zitao
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present+ canfeng
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present+ ming
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present+ Angel
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 2 items remaining on the agenda:
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4. Next Teleconf time [from angel]
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5. AoB [from angel]
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zakim, clear the agenda
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agenda cleared
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zitao: lifecycle
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/issues/15
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qing: sent a PR
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/16/files
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present+ aaron_wentzel
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zitao: maybe you can restructure this document
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... @@
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... mapping to existing Web specifications such as Service Workers and Page Visibility
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martin: @@
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... should link to Packaging
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... indicating the algorithms are in the other spec
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present+ yanyumeng
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s/martin: @@/martin: In the Manifest spec we have the "start page" as launch page. In the Packaging spec, we include the algorithm to fetch and load/launch a MiniApp. We can include cross references among specifications.
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qing: the origin model is different from web apps
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... any thoughts
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zitao: not sure if we need to reflect this on this spec
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qing: we need somewhere to say the super app or the OS should be responsible to check the app's origin and security
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... could be in the explainer
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... not sure it should be in the spec
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xfq: it's a valid concern for other specs as well
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qing: we can update the explainers of the specs
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... and add something in the white paper
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zitao: I agree
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... we can reflect it in the white paper
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qing: we can add this in our white paper revision plan
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... @@
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zitao: manifest
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https://w3c.github.io/localizable-manifests/
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/33
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/29
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zitao: reviewed this
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... lgtm
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... any objections?
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[silence]
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zitao: we'll merge it then
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martin: thank you
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zitao: packaging
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... mainly editorial changes
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... the current status is to assume that we use standard html css and so on
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... we're splitting the spec into the packaging itself and the templates
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s/the templates/its content/
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... template, markup etc.
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... agree we should include a11y section
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... not very relevant for this spec though
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... imo this is solid to move forward
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... when we add the a11y section
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zitao: i reviewed it
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... we agreed to split this spec into two specs
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... do you this is mature enough for fpwd?
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s/... mainly editorial changes/martin: mainly editorial changes/
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martin: @@
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xfq: need a cfc
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zitao: any objection to merging this pr and move it to fpwd?
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[silence]
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q+
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canfeng: widgets issue
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-widget/issues/2
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canfeng: @@
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https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings
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angel: infoshare
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... cg will meet in the second hour
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... our wg will use the first hour
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... oct 28
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... xfq can send the invitation
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ack Angel
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