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14:58:11 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:58:11 <trackbot> Date: 16 September 2021
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15:06:58 <Detlev> present+
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15:07:12 <Kim_patch> Zoom meeting
15:07:58 <Sukriti> https://mit.zoom.com.cn/j/551733347?pwd=NnhvQTFsbUZaSktkL3lBNjBzdHVLdz09
15:08:36 <jeanne> s/https://mit.zoom.com.cn/j/551733347?pwd=NnhvQTFsbUZaSktkL3lBNjBzdHVLdz09//
15:09:21 <Kim_patch> Zoom meeting
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15:10:00 <Kim_patch>  zakim, bye
15:10:00 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Detlev, JakeAbma
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15:10:10 <jeanne> rrsagent, bye
15:10:10 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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15:10:37 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:10:37 <trackbot> Date: 16 September 2021
15:10:47 <Sukriti_> present+
15:10:55 <JakeAbma> present+
15:11:01 <Detlev> present+
15:11:02 <Kim_patch> Present+
15:11:10 <jeanne> present+
15:12:18 <JakeAbma> scribe: JakeAbma
15:13:11 <Kim_patch> MATF Drive Folder https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1Q9md2AvmeTgvsT9GB62BsGvCaalDGtE6
15:16:00 <Kim_patch> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aJj04j0bzqrQ-mJbkG2Ika-ZvmDmv4dqRUCILYQwavQ/edit#
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15:16:33 <Jennifer> present+
15:18:39 <jeanne> q+ to ask if you discussed the number of outcomes?
15:21:34 <JakeAbma> Jeanne: did you discuss outcomes in the group?
15:22:41 <JakeAbma> KP: no, but wondering how it fits proposal from Jake
15:23:54 <JakeAbma> Jeanne: like it so far
15:25:01 <JakeAbma> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i7t15hmVd8TvTtLlr9KmNOAEJNqhMzuawg0X8lesqJU/edit
15:25:09 <JakeAbma> KP: orientation
15:25:28 <JakeAbma> KP: common and unique needs also here
15:26:50 <JakeAbma> Jeanne: did you use Functional Needs from the list?
15:27:06 <JakeAbma> KP: Yes, but sometimes hard to grasp people with different needs
15:29:05 <JakeAbma> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eJkgXqbh7dx3uD6XAy8XAANmwfbbVZ5GKb_gbsUdkVs/edit#heading=h.n89ecixaq6rg
15:29:26 <JakeAbma> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eJkgXqbh7dx3uD6XAy8XAANmwfbbVZ5GKb_gbsUdkVs/edit#heading=h.4jiwp8jpc143
15:30:53 <Kim_patch> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bsze5rAu-6tkWBTGyrcm4tdsGvZAaEBBUCDsQZngl2k/edit#gid=39173941
15:31:39 <JakeAbma> KP: started with user needs
15:31:46 <JakeAbma> KP: may change in time
15:34:02 <JakeAbma> KP: need to add functional needs
15:35:46 <JakeAbma> KP: what would you like now Jeanne?
15:36:07 <JakeAbma> Jeanne: work them out, techniques, get started etc.
15:37:45 <JakeAbma> Jeanne: want to know if we can find flaws, propose approach, find gaps
15:38:38 <JakeAbma> Jeanne: stress test approach
15:38:55 <JakeAbma> q+
15:40:57 <Kim_patch> Jake: user needs is the same puzzle pieces, not worked out completely but makes it simpler to do we do well while covering all the needs
15:41:35 <Kim_patch> Jake: Different approaches sometimes user needs part of the outcome or woven into technique
15:49:20 <JakeAbma> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1POhgI_xHZtSoNbHFp3r5HYIkl6ePaP8DC5d90SZ1tF4/edit#gid=752043294
15:52:03 <JakeAbma> Jeanne: can you explain "Need types (Critical, Critical process, Critical aggregate)" column?
15:52:25 <JakeAbma> KP: Came from silver presentation
16:15:20 <Kim_patch>  zakim, list participants
16:15:20 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Sukriti_, JakeAbma, Detlev, Kim_patch, jeanne, Jennifer
16:16:12 <Kim_patch>  zakim, list participants
16:16:12 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Sukriti_, JakeAbma, Detlev, Kim_patch, jeanne, Jennifer
16:16:48 <Kim_patch>  zakim, list participants
16:16:50 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Sukriti_, JakeAbma, Detlev, Kim_patch, jeanne, Jennifer
16:17:01 <Kim_patch> chair: Kimberly_Patch
16:17:21 <Kim_patch>  rrsagent, make minutes
16:17:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/16-matf-minutes.html Kim_patch
16:27:17 <Kim_patch> Scribe: Kim
16:27:36 <Kim_patch> rrsagent, make minutes
16:27:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/16-matf-minutes.html Kim_patch
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18:39:11 <Kim_patch>  rrsagent, bye
18:39:11 <RRSAgent> I see no action items