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11:59:09 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
11:59:18 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Jan_Romann
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12:06:37 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch, Daniel_Peintner, Philipp_Blum, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:07:41 <kaz> chair: Sebastian
12:07:49 <kaz> scribenick: jkrhb
12:08:50 <jkrhb> topic: Minutes
12:09:20 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/index.php?title=Main_WoT_WebConf&action=edit&section=22
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12:09:59 <jkrhb> sb: goes over the minutes from the last meeting
12:10:10 <kaz> i|goes|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/09/08-wot-minutes.html Sep-8|
12:10:26 <jkrhb> kaz: Jan Romann still has to introduce himself
12:11:39 <jkrhb> mm: wrong potential dates in the schedule for the plugfest, should be 26, 27, 28
12:12:33 <sebastian> Resolution: Update the resolution from last week: Adopt the following schedule - Plugfest Sept 27-Oct 1; vF2F Oct 5, 7, 26, 27, 28; and Joint meetings Oct 25-29
12:13:27 <kaz> s/Jan Romann still has to introduce himself/note we should ask Jan to introduce himself (after the minutes review)/
12:13:41 <jkrhb> mm: if we change the minutes, we change the resolution. As it is a typo it is not a problem, though
12:14:07 <kaz> i/if we/(prev minutes' resolution has been also fixed)/
12:14:14 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:14:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:14:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
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12:17:03 <jkrhb> No objections to the changed minutes
12:17:22 <kaz> topic: Intro from Jan
12:17:48 <kaz> jan: studying computer science
12:18:05 <kaz> ... working on WoT, etc., for the past years
12:18:21 <kaz> ... one of my key interest areas
12:18:26 <kaz> ... working with Philipp
12:18:34 <kaz> ... using node-wot
12:18:59 <kaz> ... interested in creating reusable models
12:19:06 <kaz> ... and very happy to join the group
12:19:08 <kaz> sk: welcome!
12:19:19 <kaz> i/studying/scribenick: kaz/
12:19:32 <kaz> ... introduces the WoT welcome pages
12:19:46 <kaz> ... if you have any questions, don't hesitate to let us know
12:19:51 <kaz> jan: ok, thanks!
12:19:57 <jkrhb> topic: Quick updates
12:20:01 <kaz> scribenick: jkrhb
12:20:09 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
12:20:11 <jkrhb> topic: Quick updates
12:20:17 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:20:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:20:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
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12:21:38 <jkrhb> DiOT conference takes place in November (8-12)
12:21:58 <jkrhb> mm: Unfortunately, I can't attend
12:22:03 <kaz> present+ Michael_Peintner
12:22:44 <kaz> i/DiOT/subtopic: DIoT Workshop/
12:22:45 <jkrhb> sb: If you are interested, feel free to submit papers to the conference
12:22:50 <kaz> s/DiOT/DIoT/
12:23:41 <kaz> subtopic: WoT-JP CG
12:23:47 <jkrhb> sb: Updates to the WoT web page have been approved in the marketing call
12:24:01 <kaz> s/subtopic: WoT-JP CG/subtopic: Marketing/
12:24:03 <kaz> subtopic: WoT-JP CG
12:24:26 <jkrhb> tm: working on translations of WoT documents to Japanese
12:24:44 <jkrhb> subtopic: Netzo
12:25:15 <jkrhb> sb: New startup which active in the area of Web of Things
12:25:37 <jkrhb> ... discussed in the chair meeting to invite them to open day
12:25:45 <mlagally> q+
12:26:21 <kaz> q+
12:26:33 <jkrhb> ... Takeaka Coperation, a Japanese Contruction Company, is also interested in Web of Things
12:26:42 <jkrhb> mm: Last open day was a bit full
12:27:04 <kaz> s/startup/startup, Netzo,/
12:27:18 <jkrhb> ml: Quick question on Netzo: Do we know more about them? In which region are they active?
12:27:24 <kaz> s/subtopic: Netzo/subtopic: Open Day guest candidates/
12:27:34 <kaz> s/Takeaka/Takenaka/
12:27:43 <kaz> s/Contruction/Construction/
12:27:57 <jkrhb> sb: Not much information, there is a Youtube channel, would be interesting to ask them what they are doing.
12:28:06 <jkrhb> ... The company is from Munich
12:28:22 <jkrhb> ... Their web page only says "Coming Soon".
12:28:25 <kaz> q?
12:28:27 <kaz> ack ml
12:28:44 <jkrhb> ... Very cool that they want to make a business with WoT, though
12:29:10 <jkrhb> sb: Takenaka made a press release that they are using WoT
12:29:32 <Mizushima> s/working on translations of WoT documents to Japanese/WoT-JP CG launched four task forces, Deployment, Outrerach, Translation and Usecases. I hope to be able to work someting with WoT WG and IG. For example PlugFest, Translation./
12:30:00 <jkrhb> kaz: Very big construction company, using WoT, submitted a research paper on the use of WoT, we reached out to them if they would like to join the Open Day.
12:30:45 <jkrhb> mm: We should get Use Case input from them
12:31:02 <kaz> s/ we reached out to them if they would like to join the Open Day./would be great if they could also join the Open Day./
12:31:22 <jkrhb> Topic: Moderation of Marketing Call
12:31:24 <kaz> s/using WoT/using WoT for their building management system./
12:31:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:31:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:31:48 <jkrhb> sb: I would like to step down as lead of Marketing Call
12:32:04 <jkrhb> ... would propose Fady as a successor as lead of Marketing Call
12:32:37 <jkrhb> ... Fady is kind of the successor to Ege as doctoral student at TUM
12:32:47 <mlagally> q+
12:32:51 <kaz> s/Quick updates//
12:32:54 <kaz> ack k
12:33:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:33:31 <kaz> q?
12:33:32 <sebastian> q?
12:33:32 <jkrhb> sb: Fady is working with Ege, also on tutorial videos
12:34:10 <McCool> q+
12:34:25 <jkrhb> ml: Would be great to have a marketing expert as a co-chair
12:35:24 <kaz> s/WoT-JP CG launched/WoT-JP CG is launching/
12:35:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:35:46 <kaz> q?
12:35:49 <kaz> ack ml
12:35:50 <kaz> q+
12:36:05 <jkrhb> ... maybe some of the Japanese members could think about marketing for the Japanese market
12:36:33 <kaz> s/co-chair/co-moderator/
12:36:43 <jkrhb> mm: We need three things: Tutorials, website and business. Business is missing at the moment
12:36:59 <kaz> q?
12:37:00 <jkrhb> sb: Let us know if someone would like to join this effort
12:37:04 <kaz> ack mc
12:37:31 <jkrhb> ... welcome to Fady as the new chair of the marketing call
12:38:08 <kaz> ack k
12:38:39 <jkrhb> kaz: Not objecting Fady as new lead of marketing call, we should reach out to Japanese community (?) group
12:38:55 <jkrhb> sb: Similar situation with the testing call
12:39:25 <jkrhb> mm: Would be great if someone else could organize the Plugfests in the feature
12:39:38 <jkrhb> ... will still organize this one, however
12:39:50 <jkrhb> topic: TPAC 2021
12:39:50 <kaz> s/we should reach out to Japanese community (?) group/but regarding the collaboration from the JP Members, I think we should ask the WoT-JP CG for help :)/
12:40:12 <kaz> i/Similar/sb: good point/
12:40:20 <kaz> i/Similar/subtopic: Testing TF/
12:40:26 <jkrhb> sb: We'll start in two weeks on monday with the first Plugfest call
12:40:35 <kaz> s/in the feature/in the future/
12:40:46 <jkrhb> ... and then continue with F2F calls in the week after
12:41:21 <mlagally> q+
12:41:35 <jkrhb> sb: ECLASS and OPC-UA meetings can probably be postponed
12:41:50 <jkrhb> sb: Something else to share here?
12:43:02 <kaz> q+
12:43:05 <kaz> ack ml
12:43:20 <jkrhb> ml: If we thing about outreach, maybe we could reconsider meeting with them and others, keeping a timeslot for a OPC-UA meeting
12:44:03 <jkrhb> sb: Maybe we should make a decision if we want to speak with them on the Use-Case call
12:44:07 <jkrhb> ml: Agrees
12:44:29 <kaz> s/thing about/think about/
12:45:07 <jkrhb> ml: Maybe a wider audience could be good for outreach
12:45:37 <jkrhb> mk: Is there something else we can do to promote WoT?
12:46:12 <jkrhb> sb: OPC-UA binding for WoT is probably interesting for them
12:46:57 <jkrhb> ... we have to make them aware of the benefits of WoT
12:47:07 <kaz> s/mk:/ml:/
12:47:07 <jkrhb> ... not the other way around
12:47:15 <kaz> q?
12:48:03 <jkrhb> mm: Maybe have a presentation how to use WoT for external organizations on Open Day, together with external actors
12:49:19 <kaz> ack k
12:49:44 <jkrhb> sb: We have to schedule the Open Day soon
12:49:57 <jkrhb> mm: Doodle has not been created, yet
12:50:08 <kaz> action: kaz to create a doodle to find preferred slots for OpenDay meetings
12:50:15 <jkrhb> ... let's create one today and send it to people we want to invite
12:50:29 <jkrhb> kaz will create a doodle
12:51:01 <jkrhb> sb: To all taskforce leads: Create input for the agenda
12:53:12 <jkrhb> mm: goes over the potential schedule for liason meetings
12:53:52 <jkrhb> topic: New Working Group Charter
12:54:10 <jkrhb> mm: question: What are new deliverables?
12:54:18 <kaz> i/New/(btw, Kaz has allocated WebEx for the vF2F meeting and added the information to the F2F wiki)/
12:54:39 <jkrhb> ... please provide input for what can be added
12:54:53 <jkrhb> ... for example profiles
12:55:05 <kaz> i|question|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/978 GH Issue 978 - WG renewal|
12:55:19 <jkrhb> mm: Not critical but good input for TPAC discussions
12:55:26 <jkrhb> topic: Smart Cities
12:55:36 <jkrhb> kaz: Nothing new yet
12:55:51 <jkrhb> topic: Publication Planning
12:56:05 <kaz> i/Publishing/topic: Testing/
12:56:23 <kaz> i/Publishing/kaz: let's continue the discussion during the Plugfest call later/
12:58:04 <jkrhb> ml: One comment on Liasons: PR for adding contributing entities(?) to Use-Case document
12:59:18 <jkrhb> mm: We need to clarify what the contributions actually are
12:59:35 <jkrhb> ml: Should be discussed in next Use-Case call
13:00:24 <jkrhb> topic: Additional documents
13:00:42 <jkrhb> mm: Created a spin-off document for TD signatures
13:01:03 <jkrhb> sb: We will discuss more in TD call
13:01:26 <jkrhb> topic: Miscellaneous
13:01:30 <kaz> s/entities(?)/SDOs/
13:01:41 <jkrhb> ml: Good progress in architecture meeting
13:01:58 <kaz> s/Miscellaneous/TF reports/
13:02:18 <kaz> [adjourned; Plugfest call in 10mins]
13:02:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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