IRC log of wot-pf on 2021-09-08

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meeting: WoT Plugfest/Testfest
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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/index.php?title=PlugFest_WebConf&action=edit&section=9
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topic: Minutes
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-> https://www.w3.org/2021/09/01-wot-pf-minutes.html Sep-1
13:16:07 [kaz]
mm: looks fine
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... any objections?
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(none)
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approved
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topic: Logistics
13:17:03 [kaz]
-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2021.09.Online Plugfest/Testfest page for TPAC
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mm: will we have VPN?
13:18:36 [kaz]
kaz: should be still available
13:18:54 [kaz]
... we can re-use the instruction for the March Plugfest/Testfest
13:18:56 [kaz]
mm: ok
13:19:25 [kaz]
... (give some summary information to Matsuda-san)
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... VPN provided instead of local network
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... useful for testing
13:20:47 [kaz]
mt: how the IP addresses are allocated within the VPN network?
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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/tools/vpn VPN instruction
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mm: (gives some explanation based on the above instruction)
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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/tools/vpn/ip.csv IP address assignment in the past
13:23:39 [kaz]
kt: some configuration for SoftEther server may need to be updated
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... need to check
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q?
13:24:07 [kaz]
mm: could you help for that?
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q+
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kt: don't have the root account myself
13:25:14 [kaz]
kaz: thought we had consult with the Systeam, and gave the root account to Toumura-san at some point
13:25:27 [kaz]
... but haven't you got one?
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kt: no...
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kaz: let's check with the Systeam again then
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mm: another point is a possible gateway using Raspberry PI
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q+
13:28:54 [kaz]
-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2020.09.Online network setting for TPAC 2020
13:29:19 [kaz]
mm: the question is whether you want to get connected directly or via a gateway
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kaz: we need to clarify the network setting in general
13:30:48 [kaz]
... and think we need Toumura-san's help
13:31:04 [kaz]
... will work with him and ask the Systeam for help
13:31:07 [kaz]
mm: right
13:31:41 [kaz]
... we should clarify who wants to get connected the VPN or the Internet, etc.
13:33:02 [kaz]
action: kaz to make sure Toumura-san gets root access for the VPN service for Plugfest
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kaz: btw, who would participate in the Plugfest/Testfest for TPAC 2021?
13:34:28 [kaz]
mm: think, Toumura-san, Matsuda-san, myself (McCool) and Koster at least
13:35:11 [kaz]
... should clarify who would join the Testfest part and who would join the Plugfest part
13:36:27 [kaz]
... and also what project to be checked
13:37:20 [kaz]
kaz: right
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... who would be on the client side and who would be on the device side
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mt: regarding ECHONET, not myself but somebody from ECHONET will participate in the Plugfest
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... I can be the contact point, though
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mm: ok
13:39:50 [kaz]
... what about you, Toumura-san?
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kt: no plan for extending the nodeRED client
13:40:41 [kaz]
... but can check the connectivity with the other entities based on the existing implementation
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mm: any discussion on the opensource project?
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kt: not yet
13:41:51 [kaz]
mm: how about trying mDNS + TDD queries?
13:42:00 [kaz]
... would be useful
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... for retail use cases as well
13:42:37 [kaz]
kt: happy to work on the possible implementation in the future
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... but currently don't have enough time
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kaz: so we should see what we can
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kt: yes, a client based on node generator
13:44:48 [kaz]
... not sure we can publish it as opensource software at the moment
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s/moment/moment, though/
13:45:37 [kaz]
kaz: ok
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... so let's put our proposals on the GH page, and check with the listed people to see what's possible
13:46:19 [kaz]
mm: yes, let's do so
13:46:53 [kaz]
mt: is it possible for you to join the ECHONET project and provide a client?
13:47:00 [kaz]
kt: yes, I'm happy to do so
13:48:04 [kaz]
kaz: great
13:48:55 [kaz]
... let's list all the possible entities including both the client (=consumer) side and the device (=producer) side like McCool is doing now :)
13:49:30 [kaz]
... and let's see the possible combination on which client to be connected with which device next week including some more participants
13:49:54 [kaz]
... confirming Toumura-san is OK with getting connected with the ECHONET device is great
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mm: ok
13:51:32 [kaz]
... (then creates some more additional sub-directories for Testfest, e.g., Discovery and Profiles, in addition to TD
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s/TD/TD)/
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kaz: btw, how should we test the specs like Architecture, Discovery and Profiles other than TD?
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mm: good question
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... TD is straightforward
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... we can check the generated TDs themselves
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... regarding Architecture, we need to check the assertions manually
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... regarding Discovery, may need to schema, etc.
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... still need to think about the procedure
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mt: I have yet another question on the logistics
13:59:24 [kaz]
... need clarification about the time
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kt: 9am EDT is 10pm JST
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mt: ok
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q+
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... btw, is it ok to forward the webex information to the engineers working on our implementations?
14:01:00 [kaz]
mm: sure
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... also we can exchange information by email as well
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mt: ok
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[adjourned]
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