IRC log of rqtf on 2021-09-08
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 08 September 2021
- 12:45:17 [jasonjgw]
- chair: jasonjgw
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- agenda+ Joint working group meetings and break-out sessions planned for TPAC 2021.
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- agenda+ Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements: state of the Call for Consensus.
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- agenda+ Accessibility of Remote Meetings.
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- agenda+ WAI-CooP symposium.
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- agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
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- present+
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- present+
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- agendum 1 -- Joint working group meetings and break-out sessions planned for TPAC 2021. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 08 September 2021
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- Scribe: Joshue108
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- Present+
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- zakim, who's here?
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- Present: jasonjgw, janina, Joshue
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- On IRC I see scott_h, Judy, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC_, jasonjgw, Joshue108, trackbot
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- present+
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- Agenda?
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- Zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1 -- Joint working group meetings and break-out sessions planned for TPAC 2021. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- JW: Notes changes in meetings
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- COGA TF requested joint meeting
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- JW: Janina updates?
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- present+
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- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
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- JS: We have two RQTF meetings on the 20th
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- Near the top
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- In the first week of TPAC on the 20th at this time, we will meet with COGA
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- They will drive the agenda
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- Then straight into Timed text
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- And the SAUR - Media Synchronization
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- These are the key items that are scheduled
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- These times are confirmed.
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- Q?
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- JS: Thanks Janina and to other for organisation
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- JS: Comments?
- 13:09:25 [jasonjgw]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements: state of the Call for Consensus. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- JS: Expect things that develop to go there
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- JW: This is the SAUR document
- 13:09:42 [janina]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2021Sep/0000.html
- 13:10:02 [Joshue108]
- There is an active CFC, that has been issued - it ends midnight next week (Weds)
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- JS: Any formal member of APA is invited to review and comment
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- [Boston time]
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- JW: It is progressing
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- JS: The reason for the longer timeframe is that there are a number of holidays at the moment
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- We want to cover 5 business days - we are doing that, exactly.
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- JW: Thanks all round
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- We have also responded to the FCC related comments.
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- JOC: When will I get the FPWD branch going?
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- JS: Yes, you should - not expecting objections and there have been been positive responses.
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- JOC: OK, I can do that.
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- JOC: Asks about SAUR blog post with Steve?
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- JW: We can do that.
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- SN: I can work with Jason.
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- JS: Can be done in email?
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- JOC: I will forward sample blog posts and related things.
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- Q?
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- JW: We will discuss again next week.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Accessibility of Remote Meetings. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- JW: Last time we discussed it, we were thinking of next stages.
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- There have been some changes - I proposed some revisions
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- These have been discussed and are included
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- So what process do we want for public review and status?
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- Open for comments
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- SH: Thanks for all the input, v helpful
- 13:19:42 [janina]
- q+
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- SH: It’s in a good place - q to Judy around plan?
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- Any update?
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- JB: Josh and I spoke about this.
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- JB: Shawn had concerns around how the remote meetings doc fits in.
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- JOC: Can you do that?
- 13:21:42 [Joshue108]
- JB: Yup.
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- JB: We need to work out where this fits.
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- I’ll follow up with Shawn
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- JS: Sounds good. EO is the main intersection point here.
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- JW: Let’s make progress here, and see that that looks like.
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- Ack jan
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- JS: I want to promote the notion of W3C note - either APA only or EO only or joint
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- q+
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- For two reasons - getting the widest public review on the way to note status, and also around the process regarding statements
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- JB: Thanks for the clarification
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- JB: EO does not do notes
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- I don’t think they would co-sponsor etc - they are busy
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- regarding the note track, Michael has concerns around how this intersects with other notes from APA
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- q+
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- JB: Do others support what Janina is saying?
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- Ack Judy
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- FYI Statements are a new W3C process option
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- JW: I’ve read the draft - gives overview
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- Ack sc
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- SH: I do support Janina
- 13:27:59 [Judy]
- q+ to describe the W3C Process Statement option
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- It’s also useful as a supporting document for the RAUR
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- SH: Are there reasons why it shouldn’t be a note?
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- JB: <gives overview of W3C publications>
- 13:29:38 [janina]
- https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/Drafts/#note-track
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- Ack judy
- 13:30:11 [Zakim]
- Judy, you wanted to describe the W3C Process Statement option
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- JB: Janina is right that we could send this on a path
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- JB: There are pros and cons
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- Q?
- 13:31:04 [Joshue108]
- JB: We could do that outside the meeting and include a W3C statement in the options
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- SH: That would be helpful
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- JW: Let’s see what pros and cons look like after EO have engaged with the question.
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- JB: Shawn has many roles
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- JW: When will we bring it back?
- 13:33:14 [Joshue108]
- JB: Next week please
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- WAI-CooP symposium. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- [JB clarifies that the discussion will be with Shawn, not directly with EOWG]
- 13:35:09 [Joshue108]
- JW: This is the Community of Practice project
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- An important element is that this will explore issues with Emerging technology and practices.
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- The organisers are arranging a symposium
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- APA and Research Questions are participating.
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- JW: Josh?
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- q+
- 13:37:24 [jasonjgw]
- Josh: notes that APA will essentially be co-organizing the symposium. Several APA/RQTF participants have contributed to preliminary discussions of the Symposium.
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- JS: I also contributed
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- JB: There is a timing issue they want to announce today.
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- Ack judy
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- JB: We hope to get this through the announcement cycle today.
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- So there were questions around APA and RQTF role.
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- JS: My additions are given in the last hour.
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- Q+
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- JW: They are canvassing for research topics that would be of interest.
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- All here are welcome to participate.
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- Ack me
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- JOC: Acks seeing Janina proposal
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- JB: Carlos’s proposal seemed to be lighter.
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- JW: Some tweaking is needed to what Carlos is saying.
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- He lists Pronunciation but it isn’t clear that it refers to TTS.
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- JB: Research Questions may not all have seen this either, can you resend?
- 13:45:14 [Joshue108]
- JS: Happy to do that.
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- Agenda?
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- JW: There will be opportunities for engagement with the symposium
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- Anything else to note?
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- JOC: We just need to work out what the term is that we are.
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- JOC: <gives overview of latest draft symposium draft from Carlos>
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- Q?
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- JW: The call is broad - and there are a list of topics that should engage people
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- JW: Comments?
- 13:50:18 [Raja]
- If there is no active link to the symposium , is there a link to previous symposium?
- 13:51:28 [Joshue108]
- JB: Any objections to ‘RQTF invites..’ wording?
- 13:51:36 [Raja]
- No objection
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- JS: Can we say APA - Research Questions invites? Keep link?
- 13:51:57 [Raja]
- Yes, I like that
- 13:52:47 [Joshue108]
- JW: There is a broad audience here
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- Q?
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- Agenda?
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- zakim, take up item 5
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- agendum 5 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:54:33 [Joshue108]
- JW: This is an early editors draft and once the SAUR is ready we would start working in this
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- And getting it over the line.
- 13:54:59 [Joshue108]
- Josh is busy now on getting SAUR ready for publishing
- 13:55:20 [Joshue108]
- Please do re-familiarise yourself with the NAUR
- 13:55:48 [Joshue108]
- What is in main will reflect the work done so far - there is some work in a branch, that I will review with Josh
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- But proposed material is in main
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- JW: Let’s do that over the next couple of weeks, and as soon as SAUR is ready we can look at the Natural Language Interface document (NAUR)
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- <crickets>
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- JW: There is a good window to review and get ready for public review
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- Q?
- 13:57:56 [Joshue108]
- JW: Let’s bring this back next week.
- 13:58:27 [jasonjgw]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- WAI-CooP symposium. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- zakim, take up item 6
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- agendum 6 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:59:09 [Joshue108]
- JW: There is the topic of Flash mitigation
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- Anything else from APA?
- 13:59:28 [Joshue108]
- JS: Nothing we’ve not touched on.
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- We are hoping to progress
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- JS: We have good stuff in the pipeline, the SAUR, Flash mitigation - exciting when we can do stuff that fixes problems
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- Rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/08-rqtf-minutes.html Joshue108
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- Trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
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- As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, Joshue, scott_h, SteveNoble
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/08-rqtf-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see no action items
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, Joshue, scott_h, SteveNoble
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