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15:50:03 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
15:50:03 <trackbot> Date: 08 September 2021
15:50:08 <janina> agenda?
15:50:11 <janina> Chair: Becky
15:50:11 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements;
15:50:11 <janina> agenda+ TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings
15:50:11 <janina> agenda+ Task Force Updates;
15:50:11 <janina> agenda+ FAST Progress
15:50:14 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
15:50:17 <janina> agenda+ Accessibility Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
15:50:20 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
15:50:22 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
15:50:25 <janina> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
15:50:28 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
15:50:30 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:50:33 <janina> agenda+ be done
15:50:59 <janina>  present+
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15:56:54 <becky> agenda?
15:59:25 <PaulG> present+
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16:01:04 <FredrikFischer> present+
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16:03:26 <becky> present+
16:03:33 <JF> Present+
16:03:41 <PaulG> scribe: PaulG
16:03:55 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:03:55 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements; -- taken up [from janina]
16:04:12 <janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2021Sep/0000.html
16:04:21 <PaulG> janina: we have a CFC running through next week
16:05:00 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
16:05:00 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
16:05:01 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:05:01 <Zakim> 2. TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings [from janina]
16:05:07 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 2
16:05:07 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings -- taken up [from janina]
16:05:42 <PaulG> becky: once meetings are on that page as confirmed, I'm adding them to the official TPAC page
16:06:28 <PaulG> janina: apparently the whole first week is for breakout sessions but we've already confirmed several cross-group meetings in the first week so we'll leave things as they are
16:06:59 <PaulG> janina: we still have some meetings to schedule
16:07:19 <PaulG> janina: we'll possibly be done scheduling after a week or two
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16:07:31 <Jonny_James> present+
16:09:20 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:09:20 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates; -- taken up [from janina]
16:10:32 <PaulG> janina: RQTF CFC for FPWD and a couple more documents coming behind that, not quite ready. There's a moratorium on publishing next week.
16:11:39 <PaulG> janina: personalization is in good shape but never requested an accessibility review
16:12:17 <PaulG> janina: there's an open issue with i18n and they agreed to meet before TPAC will hopefully resolve that issue
16:13:03 <becky> scribe: becky
16:13:50 <becky> PaulG: working on edits to include in next FPWD;
16:13:58 <becky> scribe: paulG
16:14:33 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:14:33 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from janina]
16:15:09 <PaulG> Joshue108: reviewing Jake's proposal. Nothing to show yet.
16:15:40 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:15:40 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
16:16:22 <PaulG> MichaelC: for HTML we requested liason to APA
16:16:43 <PaulG> MichaelC: ARIAWG has done decentralized identifiers
16:16:49 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:16:49 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Accessibility Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
16:17:15 <PaulG> MichaelC: nothing new to our attention
16:17:54 <becky> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1358
16:18:28 <becky> https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/dcat/#accessibility
16:18:28 <PaulG> MichaelC: that should have shown up in closed but it didn't
16:19:08 <PaulG> MichaelC: there's nothing we need to do
16:19:44 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:19:44 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
16:20:10 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/epub-multi-rend-11/ https://www.w3.org/TR/epub-multi-rend-11/
16:20:42 <PaulG> MichaelC: rendition isn't explained
16:21:21 <PaulG> janina: they usually know their way around accessibility but they might have missed something like explaining multiple renditions
16:21:45 <PaulG> janina: they've requested we give their specs a close read before TPAC
16:21:52 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:DPub EPub specs in our tracker
16:22:40 <PaulG> janina: I'll clarify which documents need an APA review and we can start to divvy them up.
16:23:16 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/IFT/ Incremental Font Transfer
16:24:23 <PaulG> MichaelC: two methods to transfer portions of fonts over multiple requests
16:24:44 <PaulG> becky: I think we can skip this
16:25:13 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-display-3/ CSS Display Module Level 3
16:25:44 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3040
16:25:46 <PaulG> MichaelC: we have an open issue on this that has not been addressed
16:26:28 <PaulG> MichaelC: issue will be assigned to Amy
16:27:23 <PaulG> topic: Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
16:27:35 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/12
16:27:50 <PaulG> MichaelC: css scrollbars
16:28:36 <PaulG> JF: I personally reject the response we got from CSSWG.
16:30:41 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues/29
16:31:32 <PaulG> MichaelC: we could consider it reviewed or re-review it
16:32:09 <PaulG> becky: browsers have always been given a pass on contrast issues
16:32:57 <PaulG> janina: it might be worth an accessibility note, warning of what's to come
16:33:35 <PaulG> MichaelC: I'll block it based on the thick/wide scrollbar
16:33:46 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/13
16:34:06 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/CSS_Display_Module_Level_3
16:34:16 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3040
16:34:17 <PaulG> MichaelC: we also have open issues on this one
16:35:03 <PaulG> MichaelC: do we want to do a generic review or just continue working these issues
16:35:18 <PaulG> becky: Amy's always been good about following up
16:35:26 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/14
16:35:31 <PaulG> MichaelC: I'll update the permissions and assign it
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16:36:28 <PaulG> MichaelC: it looks like our template was copied
16:36:45 <IanPouncey> present+
16:37:54 <PaulG> MichaelC: a week ago we said we didnt' want to review it
16:38:07 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:38:07 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
16:38:16 <PaulG> becky: Amy's not here for updates
16:38:32 <PaulG> IanPouncey: nothing to report that I'm aware of
16:38:38 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:38:38 <Zakim> agendum 8 was just opened, PaulG
16:38:41 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
16:38:41 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
16:38:43 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:38:43 <Zakim> 9. Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned [from janina]
16:38:47 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 9
16:38:47 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from janina]
16:39:21 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_of_Things_(WoT)_Profile
16:39:27 <PaulG> MichaelC: WoT profile
16:40:21 <PaulG> janina: we'll come back to this in the next walk-through
16:41:11 <PaulG> janina: I'll let Jason and Scott know
16:41:20 <PaulG> janina: and Josh
16:41:43 <PaulG> zakim, next item
16:41:43 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
16:42:07 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 9
16:42:07 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from janina]
16:42:14 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/File_API
16:44:22 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Language_Tags_and_Locale_Identifiers_for_the_World_Wide_Web
16:44:26 <PaulG> janina: let's drop File API
16:44:51 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Payment_Request_API
16:45:59 <PaulG> FredrikFischer: I looked at it and it's too low level, it's more a technical process document
16:46:31 <PaulG> MichaelC: the note was to enhance the accessibility considerations section
16:46:40 <PaulG> FredrikFischer: I think it's out of scope
16:46:57 <PaulG> MichaelC: so, we can drop this review?
16:47:32 <PaulG> becky: I think we're good
16:48:53 <PaulG> MichaelC: for PIP we filed a comment
16:48:57 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Picture-in-Picture
16:50:31 <PaulG> MichaelC: mitigating browser fingerprinting
16:50:55 <MichaelC> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Aug/0026.html
16:51:04 <PaulG> FredrikFischer: I don't think there's anything to address
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16:52:25 <PaulG> MichaelC: notifications API
16:52:29 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Notifications_API
16:52:53 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2017/10/11-apa2-minutes.html
16:53:11 <PaulG> MichaelC: next steps from 2017 is accessibility considerations section
16:55:45 <PaulG> MichaelC: a11y-needs-resolution will add this to our comment tracker
16:55:48 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
16:55:48 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
16:56:59 <PaulG> janina: we'll need to update the community groups soon
16:58:08 <PaulG> becky: do we really need to stay on top of these/
16:58:18 <PaulG> MichaelC: there's horizontal review instructions that points them to us
16:58:45 <PaulG> janina: I'll bring it up at our next meeting
16:59:40 <PaulG> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:59:43 <PaulG> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:59:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/08-apa-minutes.html PaulG
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17:00:44 <becky> zakim, clear agenda
17:00:44 <Zakim> agenda cleared
17:01:02 <becky> zakim, end meeting
17:01:02 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, PaulG, FredrikFischer, becky, JF, Jonny_James, IanPouncey
17:01:05 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:01:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/08-apa-minutes.html Zakim
17:01:08 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, becky; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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17:01:30 <becky> rrsagent, goodbye
17:01:30 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'goodbye', becky.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:01:43 <becky> rrsagent, bye
17:01:43 <RRSAgent> I see no action items