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11:03:31 <kaz> Meeting: WoT Marketing
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11:04:08 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool, Philipp_Blum, Sebastian_Kaebisch
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11:05:34 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#Sept_7.2C_2021
11:05:40 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
11:06:27 <McCool> topic: review minutes
11:06:38 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2021/08/31-wot-marketing-minutes.html
11:07:38 <McCool> mccool: one thing; we added dates for the F2F but we are still discussing them, so maybe we should add a "subject to change" note
11:09:19 <McCool> ... as for contacts, the discussion was about how to do contacts without posting emails, which are troublesome
11:09:24 <McCool> ... github is an option
11:09:37 <McCool> seb: and github has a new feature, discussions, we should look at
11:10:51 <McCool> seb: I see we also looked into issue 179, on tooling to keep events updated
11:11:02 <McCool> ... who was going to check into it?
11:11:37 <McCool> kaz: we should look at PLH's message first
11:13:11 <McCool> mmccool: could this be copied to the issue so we can find it?
11:13:49 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2021JulSep/0038.html just to make sure, PLH's message pasted again
11:14:11 <McCool> seb: (copies link to issue - members only)
11:14:22 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/Guide/meetings/organize.html guideline
11:15:04 <kaz> s/guideline/also meeting organization guideline/
11:15:20 <McCool> mmccool: can also add above link to guidelines
11:16:15 <McCool> mmccool: it also occurs to me this might be a better system than the outlook invites I have been using
11:16:43 <McCool> daniel: can these events be public or private?
11:16:51 <McCool> kaz: I think all events are public
11:17:42 <McCool> dape: would be good to see if we can merge this content inline into our page
11:18:31 <McCool> mmccool: probably a database and a script under the covers on that page
11:19:20 <McCool> seb: would also be useful to have a link to events on the main page (just under the opening para)
11:19:49 <kaz> i/would/kaz: we should clarify our requirements and then ask PLH and Denis about possible Web APIs for that purpose/
11:20:05 <McCool> seb: any objections to publishing the minutes?
11:20:14 <McCool> ... hearing none, these will be published
11:20:21 <McCool> topic: web page review
11:20:37 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:21:00 <McCool> seb: ok, so back to my thought about events, we can add another sentence
11:21:27 <McCool> mmccool: or just extend the current one with "and Events" where "Events" is a link.
11:22:20 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:22:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:22:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/07-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:22:53 <kaz> chair: Sebastian
11:22:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:22:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/07-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:25:07 <McCool> seb: creating issue https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/198
11:26:19 <McCool> mmccool: as for other changes, the dates listed for the F2F are not correct anymore
11:28:02 <McCool> ... in the last main call we discussed/decided to delay the second week of meetings to align with the official TPAC schedule
11:29:30 <McCool> dape: I will make these changes immediately then
11:29:32 <McCool> seb: ok
11:30:29 <McCool> mmccool: the wiki page for the vF2F also needs cleanup
11:30:40 <McCool> seb: some tweets would be good, i.e. for the plugfest
11:31:16 <McCool> mmccool: for the plugfest, can link to the event directory in wot-testing
11:31:32 <McCool> ... but we should not tweet a link to the f2f page until after we clean it up
11:34:19 <sebastian> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_bNWV1CgeA
11:34:42 <McCool> mmccool: under videos there was a short status update I prepped for the AC meeting that we could link
11:37:09 <kaz> q+
11:37:31 <McCool> mmccool: I would also organize the videos so the first couple are recent intros, and then the "others" are in another category that are in reverse chronological order
11:37:34 <McCool> dape: I can do that
11:37:54 <McCool> kaz: btw dom is looking at another video provider (other than youtube)
11:37:56 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/Graphics/Color/Workshop/slides/talk/verou new video service test
11:38:09 <McCool> seb: let's have a look when it is ready
11:38:12 <kaz> s/test/test, fyi/
11:38:25 <McCool> topic: new articles
11:38:37 <McCool> seb: see the agenda, I found a number of new articles
11:39:13 <McCool> ... first one I wrote (in German), is a practical introduction
11:39:31 <McCool> ... published in Heise Online
11:40:07 <McCool> ... links to a github site providing sample code in node-wot
11:40:49 <McCool> ... kaz also shared a link to an article in Japanese
11:41:12 <McCool> ... about Takanaka using WoT for smart building sytsems
11:41:20 <McCool> s/sytsems/systems/
11:41:57 <McCool> kaz: they are using WoT to integrate various systems, also using digital twins, etc.
11:42:27 <McCool> ... we are currently trying to contact them, ask them to join as a member, or at least the CG
11:43:35 <McCool> seb: unfortunately google translate did not work
11:43:48 <kaz> -> https://www.nedo.go.jp/news/press/AA5_101428.html same news from NEDO
11:43:59 <McCool> seb: also, today there was a new video from Siemens on building automation using WoT
11:44:09 <McCool> ... and semantic web technologies
11:45:14 <McCool> ... unfortunately the audio is in german
11:46:49 <McCool> mmccool: think we should post link to video page anyways, people can use the autotranslation feature
11:48:02 <McCool> mmccool: should we be updating the "implementations" page?
11:48:55 <McCool> ... with both Desigo and Takanaka
11:49:19 <McCool> dape: we do link to sayWoT
11:49:48 <McCool> seb: Desigo CC is not a consumer thing, but a business system
11:51:01 <McCool> mmccool: still, I think the information is useful even if the average developer can't use it directly
11:51:15 <McCool> ... i.e. for business people to see who is using it
11:52:51 <McCool> mmccool: one problem is the page with the list of implementations is called "Developer Tools" and is not just a list of systems using it
11:53:37 <McCool> ... suggest another page called "Usage" or "Adoptions"
11:53:49 <McCool> seb: let's discuss next time
11:53:58 <McCool> topic: dissemination
11:54:20 <McCool> seb: would like to hear about TUM's tutorials; but they are not here today
11:54:36 <McCool> ... and Philipp has been working on some tutorials
11:54:47 <McCool> philipp: shared some short videos already
11:55:09 <kaz> q+ to mention updates on the other remaining issues after this topic
11:55:12 <McCool> ... current status is the Arduino library is basically migrated to use WoT standard
11:55:55 <McCool> ... also wrote to a couple of news outlets about publishing articles
11:56:51 <McCool> seb: will this be a blog article?
11:57:06 <McCool> philipp: they are open to multiple articles, so I am thinking a series
11:57:23 <McCool> seb: how about next week we see if we can review a draft?
11:58:08 <kaz> q?
11:58:18 <McCool> ... need to avoid posting it public before it goes to to the publisher
11:58:30 <McCool> mmccool: suggest just sending drafts by email to specific reviews
11:58:37 <McCool> topic: other issues
11:58:41 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/189
11:58:44 <McCool> kaz: issue 189
11:58:57 <McCool> ... have updated "about" section
11:59:20 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/164 Issue 164
11:59:29 <McCool> ... just a link to the web page
11:59:41 <McCool> kaz: issue 161
11:59:51 <kaz> s/161/164/
12:00:08 <McCool> ... wendy was hesitant to put logos on our web page
12:00:32 <McCool> ... only want logos that we have MOUs with
12:02:25 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/142 issue 142
12:02:41 <McCool> kaz: finally, blog content move
12:03:12 <McCool> ... Coralie is looking into this and is asking system team again; about archiving older blogs and/or moving them to the new page
12:03:41 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:03:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:03:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/09/07-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
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