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13:08:32 <PaulG> zakim, agenda?
13:08:32 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
13:08:33 <Zakim> 4. Other Business [from PaulG]
13:08:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
13:08:34 <trackbot> Date: 25 August 2021
13:08:37 <PaulG> zakim, clear agenda
13:08:37 <Zakim> agenda cleared
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13:09:46 <PaulG> Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:09:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
13:09:47 <trackbot> Date: 25 August 2021
13:09:49 <PaulG> Agenda+ TPAC https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021#APA_WG_Meetings_during_TPAC_2021
13:09:52 <PaulG> Agenda+ Action Items
13:09:55 <PaulG> Agenda+ Github Issues
13:09:58 <PaulG> Agenda+ Other Business
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13:58:39 <IrfanA> agenda?
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14:09:37 <IrfanA> zakim, next item
14:09:37 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
14:10:34 <IrfanA> zakim, close this item
14:10:34 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:10:35 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:10:35 <Zakim> 2. TPAC https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021#APA_WG_Meetings_during_TPAC_2021 [from PaulG]
14:11:30 <IrfanA> janina: creating another video example
14:11:51 <IrfanA> PaulG: we would need to start immediately
14:12:08 <IrfanA> mhakkinen: i can produce story board and create a video
14:12:19 <IrfanA> PaulG: I can ask some language example from friends
14:12:39 <IrfanA> mhakkinen: I can come up with an example of finish language
14:13:10 <IrfanA> mhakkinen: amazon has not supported finish language.. though, they support swedish
14:13:25 <IrfanA> mhakkinen: may be we can do a gitHUb project for video
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14:15:23 <IrfanA> mhakkinen: I started initial conversation with a. finish/swedish digital publisher and hope fully I can persuade them to participate in this meeting.
14:15:27 <IrfanA> zakim, next item
14:15:27 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021#APA_WG_Meetings_during_TPAC_2021 -- taken up [from PaulG]
14:17:17 <IrfanA> janina: proposed break-out session is off now. we may need to think about the audience. Research questions are no longer looking for break-out session. There is place for us in week-2 with aria working group. sense emerging with several people.. existing emerging API are coming to end of life.
14:18:13 <IrfanA> janina: we have some near term problem including gap. e.g. github on browser. I presume we should participate along with Joiie and Glen.
14:18:24 <mhakkinen> I would also suggest Doug Geoffrey from Microsoft Narrator
14:18:45 <IrfanA> janina: what are we going to do in near term to address pronunciation problem.
14:19:41 <IrfanA> janina: I will coordinate with Doug and when this conversation starts, I will make sure he is added.
14:19:44 <IrfanA> zakim, next item
14:19:44 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Action Items -- taken up [from PaulG]
14:20:12 <IrfanA> Alan: I was asked to write down on internationalization.
14:20:33 <IrfanA> Alan: I will send it out initially for suggestions and add it in github based upon feedback
14:22:02 <janina> q+
14:22:56 <IrfanA> Alan: reading his draft...
14:25:01 <IrfanA> PaulG: data-ssml attr and how do we interact with lang. do you agree that we do not need voice-lang attribute
14:25:49 <IrfanA> mhakkinen: somewhere between we added things which were not part of early proposal.
14:26:44 <IrfanA> PaulG: its confusing to have both ssml-lang and html-lang..
14:26:57 <IrfanA> ack janina
14:28:38 <IrfanA> PaulG: some dialect are distinct and dont know how to address them.
14:29:44 <IrfanA> janina: this problem exists everywhere. but it matters particularly in literature. do we have any way to simulate it.
14:30:11 <IrfanA> mhakkinen: think it needs different expertise. in finish there are several languages .
14:30:42 <IrfanA> janina: we can tell internationalization to re-think about it to solve this problem.
14:32:40 <IrfanA> janina: I may have an action item here. It needs to be end up a github issue for internationalization. I will find some examples from literature
14:33:30 <IrfanA> PaulG: some people would say that simulation is never going to that good.
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14:35:15 <IrfanA> PaulG: look forward to see a github issue. will update our document to make any release.
14:35:24 <IrfanA> zakim, next item
14:35:24 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Github Issues -- taken up [from PaulG]
14:35:48 <janina> action: Janina to provide difficult examples of literary text from different historical periods for better pronunciation technology
14:35:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-34 - Provide difficult examples of literary text from different historical periods for better pronunciation technology [on Janina Sajka - due 2021-09-01].
14:37:17 <IrfanA> PaulG: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/94
14:39:53 <IrfanA> PaulG: I will add some details to clear this issue.
14:44:59 <IrfanA> PaulG: we can provide the details about data-ssml-say-as-detail to tell implementors, how can they use it.
14:45:43 <IrfanA> PaulG: voice language settings and data-ssml-say-as-detail can be taken care at the same time. We will address #94.
14:45:51 <IrfanA> zakim, next item
14:45:51 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Other Business -- taken up [from PaulG]
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14:46:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/25-pronunciation-minutes.html IrfanA
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