IRC log of pronunciation on 2021-08-25

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zakim, agenda?
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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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4. Other Business [from PaulG]
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Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 25 August 2021
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zakim, clear agenda
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agenda cleared
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Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 25 August 2021
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Agenda+ TPAC https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021#APA_WG_Meetings_during_TPAC_2021
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Agenda+ Action Items
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Agenda+ Github Issues
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Agenda+ Other Business
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present+
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agenda?
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present+
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present+
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present+
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scribe: Irfan
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 1 closed
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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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2. TPAC https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021#APA_WG_Meetings_during_TPAC_2021 [from PaulG]
14:11:30 [IrfanA]
janina: creating another video example
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PaulG: we would need to start immediately
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mhakkinen: i can produce story board and create a video
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PaulG: I can ask some language example from friends
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mhakkinen: I can come up with an example of finish language
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mhakkinen: amazon has not supported finish language.. though, they support swedish
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mhakkinen: may be we can do a gitHUb project for video
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present+
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mhakkinen: I started initial conversation with a. finish/swedish digital publisher and hope fully I can persuade them to participate in this meeting.
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agendum 2 -- TPAC https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021#APA_WG_Meetings_during_TPAC_2021 -- taken up [from PaulG]
14:17:17 [IrfanA]
janina: proposed break-out session is off now. we may need to think about the audience. Research questions are no longer looking for break-out session. There is place for us in week-2 with aria working group. sense emerging with several people.. existing emerging API are coming to end of life.
14:18:13 [IrfanA]
janina: we have some near term problem including gap. e.g. github on browser. I presume we should participate along with Joiie and Glen.
14:18:24 [mhakkinen]
I would also suggest Doug Geoffrey from Microsoft Narrator
14:18:45 [IrfanA]
janina: what are we going to do in near term to address pronunciation problem.
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janina: I will coordinate with Doug and when this conversation starts, I will make sure he is added.
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Action Items -- taken up [from PaulG]
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Alan: I was asked to write down on internationalization.
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Alan: I will send it out initially for suggestions and add it in github based upon feedback
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q+
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Alan: reading his draft...
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PaulG: data-ssml attr and how do we interact with lang. do you agree that we do not need voice-lang attribute
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mhakkinen: somewhere between we added things which were not part of early proposal.
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PaulG: its confusing to have both ssml-lang and html-lang..
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ack janina
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PaulG: some dialect are distinct and dont know how to address them.
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janina: this problem exists everywhere. but it matters particularly in literature. do we have any way to simulate it.
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mhakkinen: think it needs different expertise. in finish there are several languages .
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janina: we can tell internationalization to re-think about it to solve this problem.
14:32:40 [IrfanA]
janina: I may have an action item here. It needs to be end up a github issue for internationalization. I will find some examples from literature
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PaulG: some people would say that simulation is never going to that good.
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PaulG: look forward to see a github issue. will update our document to make any release.
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agendum 4 -- Github Issues -- taken up [from PaulG]
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action: Janina to provide difficult examples of literary text from different historical periods for better pronunciation technology
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Created ACTION-34 - Provide difficult examples of literary text from different historical periods for better pronunciation technology [on Janina Sajka - due 2021-09-01].
14:37:17 [IrfanA]
PaulG: https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/94
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PaulG: I will add some details to clear this issue.
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PaulG: we can provide the details about data-ssml-say-as-detail to tell implementors, how can they use it.
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PaulG: voice language settings and data-ssml-say-as-detail can be taken care at the same time. We will address #94.
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agendum 5 -- Other Business -- taken up [from PaulG]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/25-pronunciation-minutes.html IrfanA
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