IRC log of personalization on 2021-08-23

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
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present+
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Meeting: APA Personalization Task Force
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present+
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present+
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present+
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Meeting: APA Personalization Task Force 23 Aug 2021
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present+
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chair: Lionel Wolberger
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present+
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present+
14:05:37 [janina]
zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1 -- TPAC planning updates, https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
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lionel: Notes request to coord with COGA Facilitators; awaiting Rain's response
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q?
14:07:59 [janina]
janina: Explains question of do we want all normative plus RQTF's AUR docs in one session?
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lionel: Would want our issue resolved
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Q+
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janina: Suggests some ways to decide
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lionel: Don't think we need more than enough to understand why we do symbols--suggest 10 minutes
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lionel: Think we need 20 minutes for discussion
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jf: Think minimum of 30; could be 45
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q?
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q+
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jf: Suggests audience for Personalization is different from audience for Pronunciation
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ack me
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janina: Suggests we can consider in coord
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ack ch
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CharlesL: Agrees with JF that 25 min too little
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CharlesL: Expect we'll need to show examples and leave room for debate
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+1 to charles - if we only use 40 minutes, no harm, no foul
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scribe: Lionel
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Janina: The ePub meeting will focus on registries.
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... do we want to add Personalization to the agenda?
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janina: Asks whether we need additional agendum with Epub; or simply suggest Breakout intro is important and should be attended
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agenda?
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jf: Recalls additional eye fatigue requiring more reliance on SR AT as the day progresses
14:24:05 [CharlesL]
q+
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q?
14:25:44 [janina]
CharlesL: Believe there is lv benefit; specifically reducing on screen info, i.e. simplification
14:26:04 [Matthew_Atkinson]
q+
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Charles: Low vision would benefit from simplification
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ack ch
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Lionel_Wolberger_: Do we need to verbalize for epub a rationale?
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CharlesL: I think not; the general case is there
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CharlesL: Epub is already interested in Personalization, Charles represents epub in this ctee
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q?
14:27:57 [janina]
Matthew_Atkinson: +1 to Chhls example
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Matthew_Atkinson: also we've the beginning of tailored info presentation; so possibilities for future transformations
14:28:44 [CharlesL]
+1 for other new opportunities with LV attending.
14:30:21 [janina]
jf: We're proposing new techniques/tech for use in known or yet to be specified problems
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jf: What problems can we solve with these techniques?
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jf: COGA? We know. Other users? We just said LV. So, can we restate for wider appeal
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janina: proposes draft invite email to list for additional reasons before we send along to Silver, Epub, and LV
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[agreement]
14:41:12 [Matthew_Atkinson]
q+
14:41:18 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
q?
14:41:56 [janina]
Matthew_Atkinson: asks where to post presentation?
14:43:45 [janina]
zakim, next item
14:43:45 [Zakim]
I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, janina
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q?
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ack ma
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q?
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- Blockers to CR? Summary and review of action items -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
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lionel: github 144 still open -- no response yet
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Lionel_Wolberger_: Asks john about issue 170
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jf: Sent pr and note Sharon found some edits I missed?
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sharon: Shoulwe review before merge?
14:46:19 [janina]
sharon: can merge if we agree?
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Lionel_Wolberger_: OK
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q?
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agenda?
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action: janina to provide the task force the messaging template for shawn's review
14:49:19 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-92 - Provide the task force the messaging template for shawn's review [on Janina Sajka - due 2021-08-30].
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Labelling the unlabelled issues in git -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
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https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues
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Lionel_Wolberger_: started doing but realized we should look as a group
14:50:40 [janina]
Lionel_Wolberger_: see 4 unlabeled
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github vs travis -- one we can leave
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roy: that comes from W3C management--we can ignore
14:51:55 [Matthew_Atkinson]
q+
14:52:14 [janina]
CharlesL: suggests something like 'admin'
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janina: suggests a label that will be used again
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Matthew_Atkinson: agree about reusability
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Matthew_Atkinson: don't like 'misc' because it doesn't disclose anything
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CharlesL: like 'process' because there will be others for sure
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Lionel_Wolberger_: 'needs resolution'?
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Matthew_Atkinson: notes 'implementation'
14:57:05 [Matthew_Atkinson]
All the labels and their intended uses: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/labels
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roy: explains what this issue is
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q+
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I would recoomend then "admin" things that Roy / Chairs must deal with
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roy: explains it's not anything we can do, not even me or michael; it's for plh
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roy: proposing w3c-tool
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[agreement]
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zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Matthew_Atkinson, mike_beganyi, JF, janina, CharlesL, LisaSeemanKest, Lionel_Wolberger, becky, Roy, sharon, Have, fun, Charles!,
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/23-personalization-minutes.html janina
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