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14:01:00 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
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14:01:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> Meeting: APA Personalization Task Force
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14:01:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> Meeting: APA Personalization Task Force 23 Aug 2021
14:02:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:02:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> chair: Lionel Wolberger
14:02:26 <Roy> present+
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14:05:37 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
14:05:37 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- TPAC planning updates, https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:06:31 <janina> lionel: Notes request to coord with COGA Facilitators; awaiting Rain's response
14:07:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:07:59 <janina> janina: Explains question of do we want all normative plus RQTF's AUR docs in one session?
14:08:20 <janina> lionel: Would want our issue resolved
14:09:15 <JF> Q+
14:09:18 <janina> janina: Suggests some ways to decide
14:09:45 <janina> lionel: Don't think we need more than enough to understand why we do symbols--suggest 10 minutes
14:10:20 <janina> lionel: Think we need 20 minutes for discussion
14:10:51 <janina> jf: Think minimum of 30; could be 45
14:12:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:13:25 <CharlesL> q+
14:13:26 <janina> jf: Suggests audience for Personalization is different from audience for Pronunciation
14:13:44 <JF> ack me
14:14:48 <janina> janina: Suggests we can consider in coord
14:15:02 <JF> ack ch
14:15:08 <janina> CharlesL: Agrees with JF that 25 min too little
14:15:36 <janina> CharlesL: Expect we'll need to show examples and leave room for debate
14:15:58 <JF> +1 to charles - if we only use 40 minutes, no harm, no foul
14:17:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe: Lionel
14:18:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> Janina: The ePub meeting will focus on registries.
14:19:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... do we want to add Personalization to the agenda?
14:20:31 <janina> janina: Asks whether we need additional agendum with Epub; or simply suggest Breakout intro is important and should be attended
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14:22:54 <Lionel_Wolberger_> agenda?
14:23:25 <janina> jf: Recalls additional eye fatigue requiring more reliance on SR AT as the day progresses
14:24:05 <CharlesL> q+
14:25:06 <Lionel_Wolberger_> q?
14:25:44 <janina> CharlesL: Believe there is lv benefit; specifically reducing on screen info, i.e. simplification
14:26:04 <Matthew_Atkinson> q+
14:26:32 <Lionel_Wolberger_> Charles: Low vision would benefit from simplification
14:26:38 <janina> ack ch
14:26:59 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger_: Do we need to verbalize for epub a rationale?
14:27:11 <janina> CharlesL: I think not; the general case is there
14:27:22 <Lionel_Wolberger_> CharlesL: Epub is already interested in Personalization, Charles represents epub in this ctee
14:27:40 <Lionel_Wolberger_> q?
14:27:57 <janina> Matthew_Atkinson: +1 to Chhls example
14:28:22 <janina> Matthew_Atkinson: also we've the beginning of tailored info presentation; so possibilities for future transformations
14:28:44 <CharlesL> +1 for other new opportunities with LV attending.
14:30:21 <janina> jf: We're proposing new techniques/tech for use in known or yet to be specified problems
14:30:33 <janina> jf: What problems can we solve with these techniques?
14:30:58 <janina> jf: COGA? We know. Other users? We just said LV. So, can we restate for wider appeal
14:40:45 <janina> janina: proposes draft invite email to list for additional reasons before we send along to Silver, Epub, and LV
14:40:57 <janina> [agreement]
14:41:12 <Matthew_Atkinson> q+
14:41:18 <Lionel_Wolberger_> q?
14:41:56 <janina> Matthew_Atkinson: asks where to post presentation?
14:43:45 <janina> zakim, next item
14:43:45 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, janina
14:43:50 <janina> q?
14:43:52 <janina> ack ma
14:43:54 <janina> q?
14:44:11 <janina> zakim, next item
14:44:11 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Blockers to CR? Summary and review of action items -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:45:23 <janina> lionel: github 144 still open -- no response yet
14:45:32 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger_: Asks john about issue 170
14:45:55 <janina> jf: Sent pr and note Sharon found some edits I missed?
14:46:02 <janina> sharon: Shoulwe review before merge?
14:46:19 <janina> sharon: can merge if we agree?
14:46:22 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger_: OK
14:46:47 <Lionel_Wolberger_> q?
14:47:09 <JF> agenda?
14:49:19 <janina> action: janina to provide the task force the messaging template for shawn's review
14:49:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Provide the task force the messaging template for shawn's review [on Janina Sajka - due 2021-08-30].
14:49:41 <janina> zakim, next item
14:49:41 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Labelling the unlabelled issues in git -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:50:18 <sharon> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues
14:50:19 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger_: started doing but realized we should look as a group
14:50:40 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger_: see 4 unlabeled
14:51:17 <janina> github vs travis -- one we can leave
14:51:51 <janina> roy: that comes from W3C management--we can ignore
14:51:55 <Matthew_Atkinson> q+
14:52:14 <janina> CharlesL: suggests something like 'admin'
14:53:21 <janina> janina: suggests a label that will be used again
14:54:01 <janina> Matthew_Atkinson: agree about reusability
14:54:28 <janina> Matthew_Atkinson: don't like 'misc' because it doesn't disclose anything
14:55:46 <janina> CharlesL: like 'process' because there will be others for sure
14:56:31 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger_: 'needs resolution'?
14:56:51 <janina> Matthew_Atkinson: notes 'implementation'
14:57:05 <Matthew_Atkinson> All the labels and their intended uses: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/labels
14:58:55 <janina> roy: explains what this issue is
14:58:58 <CharlesL> q+
14:59:21 <CharlesL> I would recoomend then "admin" things that Roy / Chairs must deal with
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15:02:08 <janina> roy: explains it's not anything we can do, not even me or michael; it's for plh
15:03:33 <janina> roy: proposing w3c-tool
15:03:40 <janina> [agreement]
15:03:56 <janina> zakim, bye
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15:03:57 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Matthew_Atkinson, mike_beganyi, JF, janina, CharlesL, LisaSeemanKest, Lionel_Wolberger, becky, Roy, sharon, Have, fun, Charles!,
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15:04:16 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
15:04:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/23-personalization-minutes.html janina
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