13:54:03 RRSAgent has joined #pronunciation 13:54:03 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/08/18-pronunciation-irc 13:54:05 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:54:06 zakim, clear agenda 13:54:06 agenda cleared 13:54:08 Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference 13:54:08 Date: 18 August 2021 13:54:15 Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements on APA 13:54:21 Agenda+ New Publishing Timeline (Call for Exclusions: Specification for Spoken Presentation in HTML) 13:54:27 Agenda+ Incorporate Feedback 13:54:31 Agenda+ Other Business 13:54:36 present+ 13:57:58 Irfan has joined #pronunciation 13:58:05 agenda? 13:58:47 present+ 14:03:24 janina has joined #pronunciation 14:03:27 NeilS has joined #pronunciation 14:03:27 present+ 14:03:34 present+ 14:04:01 JF has joined #pronunciation 14:04:06 Present+ 14:05:17 Dee has joined #pronunciation 14:05:54 Present+ 14:07:02 zakim, next item 14:07:02 agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements on APA -- taken up [from PaulG] 14:07:09 scribe: Irfan 14:07:22 Chair: PaulG 14:07:45 zakim, next item 14:07:45 agendum 1 was just opened, Irfan 14:07:53 zakim, close this item 14:07:53 agendum 1 closed 14:07:54 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:07:54 2. New Publishing Timeline (Call for Exclusions: Specification for Spoken Presentation in HTML) [from PaulG] 14:07:59 Present+ 14:08:11 zakim, next item 14:08:11 agendum 2 -- New Publishing Timeline (Call for Exclusions: Specification for Spoken Presentation in HTML) -- taken up [from PaulG] 14:09:29 https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20200915/ 14:09:32 janina: if you have any patent concern, you need to take action. most of our specs in APA we do not run into that. if someone does have any issue, then there is a time period 14:10:05 JF: we have just renewed our charter so AC rep needs to action for rejoin process 14:10:43 Q+ 14:10:52 janina: it was renewed week ago and there is a 45 grace period to renew. if you are invited expert, following the link to join. Otherwise AC rep can simply nominate to this group. 14:10:55 ack jf 14:11:08 janina: if you do not do join, you will be kicked out 14:11:17 janina: best to get it done before end of sep. 14:12:57 https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20200915/#sec-Exclusion 14:15:09 PaulG: there were several question about some stuff such as HTML lang and other properties. need to cleanup and add more examples before we publish our next version. 14:15:24 PaulG: looking for Alan's update and will proceed. 14:15:30 zakim, next item 14:15:30 agendum 3 -- Incorporate Feedback -- taken up [from PaulG] 14:17:31 janina: how can we come with an engineered resolution what browser and AT vendors are saying. 14:19:18 PaulG: anyone wants to offer any idea how to handle some of the stuff such as HTML lang? 14:19:44 janina: dont see there is too much problem for TTS for some languages and it can be challenging for some languages. 14:20:09 PaulG: is there any case where HTML lang understood by AT. 14:23:36 PaulG: if one voice can handle all the use cases, its a different problem to solve. 14:23:49 janina: its a useful problem to solve 14:25:12 PaulG: voice languages attribute is a different problem and we may want to clarify if we have it correct. if it makes sense about the problem we are trying to solve. 14:26:32 james-gable-nwea has joined #pronunciation 14:27:30 PaulG: one of the main reason reason was that not any voice actor can keep the correct pronunciation for different language. 14:32:04 Janina: worried about properly handling different languages in different time periods, for example Latin over different time periods. 14:33:35 Paul: for ease drop the use case for one voice announcing multiple languages 14:34:16 Paul; chances of finding certain combinations of voices would be difficult to find 14:38:52 Paul: remove SSML Languages. Use HTML Lang 14:40:24 Janina: bring meta tags to meeting with epub 14:41:15 https://schema.org/accessibilityFeature 14:42:23 https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Accessibility 14:43:28 JF: the question is not so much how to attach the info to the document, but if we don't have the vocab in the schema now, how do we add it? 14:44:00 Janina; we need to be very explicit 14:44:29 JF: we may need to create new vocab at schema.org 14:45:32 Paul: maybe we also add a meta tag to prompt user - opt in or keep default 14:46:04 Paul: possible TPAC topic, preference setting 14:47:36 JF: Ensure TPAC topic is on agenda for meeting with epub 14:47:41 Janina: already done 14:48:01 zakim, next item 14:48:01 agendum 4 -- Other Business -- taken up [from PaulG] 14:48:14 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021 14:48:41 Janina: reminder TPAC data is there, it has been reformatted and rearranged 14:49:39 use the link posted by Janina to access the information 14:50:13 Janina: Pronunciation shows up a number of times. 14:51:47 Irfan: We received a invitation to give an overview of W3C areas focusing on speech. 14:52:11 Irfan: Need to create a video for the overview. 14:52:47 Janina: need to coordinate this overview meeting with other meetings to avoid conflicts 14:53:41 Irfan to send copy of email to Janina 14:54:17 rrsagent, make minutes 14:54:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/18-pronunciation-minutes.html Irfan 14:54:30 PaulG has left #pronunciation 15:19:10 janina has left #pronunciation 16:00:47 becky has joined #Pronunciation