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11:02:58 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
11:03:14 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner
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11:06:53 <kaz> scribenick: cris
11:07:10 <cris> topic: Agenda
11:07:25 <cris> s/topic: Agenda/topic: minutes/
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11:07:33 <cris> dape: minutes are ok
11:07:41 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/07/26-wot-script-minutes.html July-26
11:07:56 <cris> ... ok minutes approved
11:08:07 <cris> topic: Quick Updates
11:08:23 <cris> subtopic: vacation plans
11:08:33 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:08:56 <cris> dape: no updates
11:09:05 <cris> ... it might be diffcult to join on 16th
11:09:08 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:09:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:09:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/02-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:09:15 <cris> cris: yeah also from my side
11:09:18 <kaz> regrets+ Zoltan
11:09:39 <cris> dape: zoltan will be able to join on the 9th
11:09:46 <cris> topic: PRs
11:09:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:09:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/02-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:09:56 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/329
11:10:09 <kaz> chair: Daniel
11:10:16 <cris> dape: we have still a pending PR from Cristiano: 329
11:10:28 <kaz> s/329/329 PR 329 - feat: move thing-description types to a dedicated package/
11:10:36 <cris> ... we are waiting for feedback from Zoltan
11:12:01 <cris> cris: no pressure from my side
11:12:17 <cris> topic: issues
11:12:36 <cris> dape: we are small group and there are not so many updates
11:12:43 <cris> ... not sure what to do
11:13:31 <cris> cris: we could just do small clean up
11:16:28 <cris> dape: issue 310 is about discovery right?
11:19:13 <cris> cris: not only it talks about pagination in discovery but it can be used as a built in functionality
11:19:20 <dape> SUBTOPIC: TypeScript - Type DataSchemaValue circularly references itself #301
11:19:25 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/301
11:20:18 <cris> cris: I think it was solved
11:20:23 <cris> dape: I would close it
11:21:56 <cris> subtopic: Issue 107
11:22:30 <cris> dape: what happens when a thing fires many events in a short time?
11:23:11 <cris> cris: is it more protocol specific?
11:23:21 <kaz> i/issue 310 is/subtopic: Issue 310/
11:23:37 <kaz> i|issue 310|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/310 Issue 310 - Handling pagination|
11:24:15 <cris> dape: we could state the maximum updates in the TD and follow the regulation
11:24:24 <kaz> s|issues/301|issues/301 Issue 301 - TypeScript - Type DataSchemaValue circularly references itself|
11:25:11 <kaz> i|what happens|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/107 Issue 107 - Very high frequency updates|
11:26:19 <kaz> q+
11:26:27 <cris> dape: I think we should add the propose closing label here, and just wait for feedback
11:27:03 <cris> kaz: we should have clear detailed use case, especially for complicated features like this
11:27:30 <cris> ... if we don't get any we could defer it
11:28:30 <kaz> ck k
11:28:33 <kaz> s/ck k/
11:28:35 <kaz> ack k
11:29:26 <cris> subtopic: issue 117
11:29:36 <cris> dape: this issue is about assertions in the document
11:29:45 <cris> ... since scripting in not on the rec check
11:29:51 <cris> ... do we need this normative assertions?
11:30:00 <cris> ... or even a test plan?
11:30:20 <cris> kaz: we don't have to wok on testing
11:30:28 <cris> s/wok/work/
11:30:43 <cris> ... maybe we could define the test plan if we have extra time
11:31:12 <kaz> s/testing/testing, since Scripting API is not a group Note at the moment./
11:31:57 <cris> cris: might be really difficult to define a testing suite
11:32:26 <cris> dape: I agree we could do behavioral testing (i.e. unit test suites)
11:34:07 <cris> cris: it might be a future improvement
11:34:38 <cris> dape: there was I company who could develop those tests
11:34:43 <cris> ... but it never took off
11:36:44 <cris> ... dape close in favor 190
11:37:14 <cris> subtopic: Issue 193
11:37:36 <cris> dape: my take is to allow both use cases
11:37:50 <cris> ... if the td allows it we should allow to return the data
11:37:58 <cris> ... it is more flexible
11:38:18 <kaz> i|my take is|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/193 Issue 193 - Should writeProperty() return a value?
11:38:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:38:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/02-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:38:43 <cris> dape: it should not be required
11:39:51 <kaz> i|this issue is about|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/117 Issue 117 - Extract normative assertions for testing|
11:40:59 <cris> cris: the api will be more complex, my opinion is that we should well document this behavior
11:41:24 <cris> dape: yes understand, but as you said there are already concrete implementations that does so
11:43:14 <cris> cris: we have to keep in mind that this feature might only work for a specific protocol
11:43:41 <cris> ... so when checking the return value developers should somehow know the protocol used
11:45:34 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:45:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/02-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:46:10 <kaz> q+
11:46:38 <cris> cris: do we have a concrete TD of a Philipp HUE device
11:47:40 <cris> kaz: we can think about this specific device implementation, but the discussion should be moved to profile calls or work with them
11:48:11 <cris> cris: should we move this issue somewhere else then?
11:48:21 <cris> kaz: yeah or at least link
11:50:20 <cris> dape: we have an open issue about it in the thing description repository
11:50:47 <cris> kaz: we could ask this in the main call then
11:51:19 <cris> dape: ok!
11:56:20 <kaz> q?
11:56:21 <kaz> ack k
11:56:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:56:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/08/02-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
11:57:26 <kaz> s/Philipp HUE/Philips HUE/
11:58:09 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 200
11:58:20 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/200 Issue 200 - Error Handling
11:58:40 <kaz> dape: (adds comments)
11:58:48 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/200#issuecomment-890965694 Daniel's comments
11:59:03 <cris> subtopic: issue 212
11:59:20 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/212 Issue 212 - Partial TD validation for input of produce() method
11:59:36 <cris> cris: I propose to close it and open small issues for left open topics
11:59:42 <cris> dape: I agree
11:59:46 <cris> ... we are out of time
11:59:55 <cris> ... let's close the meeting now
12:00:57 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:01:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:01:41 <kaz> i/adds comments/scribenick: kaz/
12:01:58 <kaz> i/Daniel's comments/scribenick: cris/
12:01:59 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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