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17:51:59 <trackbot> Meeting: WAI Coordination Call Teleconference
17:51:59 <trackbot> Date: 28 July 2021
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17:59:52 <Judy> agenda?
18:00:01 <Judy> zakim, clear agenda
18:00:01 <Zakim> agenda cleared
18:00:04 <Judy> agenda+ Scribe, rssagent, agenda check. (Please add your present+ to IRC)
18:00:06 <Judy> agenda+ Setting next meeting date, reduced Aug schedule, either Aug 11th or Aug 25th
18:00:06 <Judy> agenda+ Welcome Kathy Eng https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2021Jul/0001.html
18:00:06 <Judy> agenda+ Publication announcements, and new or upcoming docs https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
18:00:06 <Judy> agenda+ Accessibility of new W3C calendaring https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2021Jul/0004.html
18:00:07 <Judy> agenda+ Checking back in on multi-stakeholder representation in WGs and TFs
18:00:09 <Judy> agenda+ Checking back in on how WAI groups are doing on their chartered milestones, and publications posting
18:00:11 <Judy> agenda+ Reminder of diversity fund option again
18:00:13 <Judy> agenda+ Reminder, staff transition planning
18:00:15 <Judy> agenda+ AOB?
18:03:30 <tzviya> present+
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18:06:07 <janina> present+
18:06:09 <janina> scribe: janina
18:06:24 <Judy> present+
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18:06:33 <shawn> present+ Shawn(first_part)
18:06:33 <jeanne> present+
18:06:53 <jeanne> agenda?
18:07:40 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:07:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Scribe, rssagent, agenda check. (Please add your present+ to IRC) -- taken up [from Judy]
18:07:56 <janina> judy: Agenda additions?
18:08:00 <janina> [crickets]
18:08:06 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:08:06 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Judy
18:08:14 <Judy> zakim, close item 1
18:08:14 <Zakim> agendum 1, Scribe, rssagent, agenda check. (Please add your present+ to IRC), closed
18:08:16 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
18:08:16 <Zakim> 2. Setting next meeting date, reduced Aug schedule, either Aug 11th or Aug 25th [from Judy]
18:08:17 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:08:17 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Setting next meeting date, reduced Aug schedule, either Aug 11th or Aug 25th -- taken up [from Judy]
18:08:39 <janina> Judy: Asks re Aug 11 vs 25?
18:08:50 <shawn> regrets for 11 Aug
18:09:35 <janina> Judy: Next will be Aug 25
18:10:53 <janina> zakim, next item
18:10:53 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Welcome Kathy Eng https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2021Jul/0001.html -- taken up [from Judy]
18:11:01 <Judy> August 25th next meeting.
18:11:01 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:11:01 <Judy> agenda?
18:11:01 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:11:01 <Zakim> agendum 3 was just opened, Judy
18:11:04 <Zakim> agendum 3 was just opened, Judy
18:11:37 <janina> zakim, take up item 3
18:11:38 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Welcome Kathy Eng https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2021Jul/0001.html -- taken up [from Judy]
18:12:12 <janina> Judy: Joining as ACT Co-Facilitator (from Access Board)
18:12:33 <janina> shawn: Notes not yet in db
18:12:46 <janina> Judy: Yes, will followup
18:13:12 <janina> shawn: offers, and will check Wilco is correctly designated as well
18:13:32 <janina> zakim, next item
18:13:32 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Publication announcements, and new or upcoming docs https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts -- taken up [from Judy]
18:14:05 <jeanne> scribe: jeanne
18:15:03 <shawn> q+ shawn out in August
18:15:11 <jeanne> Janina: RQTF has been busy,  XAUR is now in ADA, the CFC opens after this call. The messaging is set, and Joshue is checking it.
18:15:12 <shawn> q+ to shawn out in August
18:15:33 <jeanne> ... Syncronization Accessibility User Requirements within the next 40 days
18:16:01 <jeanne> ... this is about syncronization of sight and audio track to support lipreading
18:16:29 <shawn> Natural Language Accessibility User Requirements
18:16:53 <jeanne> ... Next will be a FWPD of Natural Language User Rquirements NLAUR to support the various voice user assistants
18:17:03 <jeanne> ... no messaging yet for either one
18:17:33 <jeanne> ... we plan to publish in late August early September. Comments remain open through TPAC, probably.
18:17:50 <jeanne> SLH: Josh has started announcements for all the documents
18:18:14 <jeanne> ... I will be out for vacation.  I should be able to do the announcements, but I can arrange a backup.
18:18:39 <jeanne> q+ to wCAG3
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18:19:18 <jeanne> SLH: Make sure that others know that it is not urgent.
18:19:24 <Ryladog> Present+ Katie_Haritos-Shea
18:19:46 <jeanne> Janina:  Will do, and want to respect staff time.  It needs to be out before TPAC.
18:20:24 <jeanne> SLH: I want better visibility on the WAI website.  I can add them as User Requirements
18:20:28 <jeanne> ack shaw
18:20:29 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to shawn out in August
18:21:06 <Ryladog> Thanks, my microphone also fell down...
18:21:27 <janina> jeanne: Notes heartbeat WCAG3 (3rd quarter) August or early September
18:21:35 <janina> q?
18:21:40 <janina> ack jea
18:21:40 <Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to wCAG3
18:21:53 <janina> shawn: Noting it--
18:22:08 <janina> jeanne: Not yet sure what all will be new, so haven't started on the announcements
18:22:11 <janina> q+
18:22:32 <jeanne> ack janina
18:22:44 <tzviya> q+ to talk about Accessibility Metadata UX Guide
18:24:40 <janina> judyNotes that people used to ignore because it was just the TF/CG, but now are paying more attention--which is good, but also requires message planning
18:25:10 <tzviya> +1 to continue heartbeat messaging (for my own personal reasons_
18:25:47 <janina> q?
18:26:12 <tzviya> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/UX-Guide-Metadata/principles/index.html
18:26:20 <janina> ack tzviya tzviya Epub has User Experience document -- don't have exact date
18:26:43 <janina> tzviya: relates to metadata (schema)
18:27:08 <janina> shawn: Unsure what kind of messaging?
18:27:22 <janina> shawn: requests for wiki
18:27:44 <janina> jamesn: Have ARIA 1.1 CfC closing; not sure how much messaging needed, not much new
18:27:56 <janina> s/1.1/Dpub 1.1/
18:28:07 <shawn> q+
18:28:31 <janina> ack shawn
18:28:54 <janina> shawn: If messaging not important, let's pass! Especially in August
18:29:46 <shawn> tzviya and others please, please, please update https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
18:30:00 <shawn> at least list in Planning Upcoming Announcements
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18:31:01 <Judy> q?
18:31:08 <tzviya> ack me
18:31:08 <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to talk about Accessibility Metadata UX Guide
18:31:09 <Judy> ack tz
18:31:09 <janina> ack tz
18:31:40 <janina> janina: Notes Epub and APA have registries mtg scheduled for TPAC; needs to be something we look to leverage in W3C registries
18:32:01 <Judy> agenda?
18:32:32 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:32:32 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Accessibility of new W3C calendaring https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2021Jul/0004.html -- taken up [from Judy]
18:33:16 <janina> Judy: asks for any comments?
18:33:33 <janina> . or who's using it?
18:33:54 <janina> jeanne: Tried, but stopped as was spamming the list
18:34:16 <janina> jeanne: not yet cognitively easy--labels could be better
18:34:27 <janina> jeanne: I struggled and made bad assumptions, e.g.
18:34:35 <tzviya> q+
18:34:53 <janina> jamesn: Finding it useful once well setup; new enhancements are good
18:35:09 <janina> jamesn: some fields are not intuitive
18:35:17 <janina> james: every calendar has that problem!
18:35:19 <janina> +1
18:35:24 <janina> actually, +1K
18:35:50 <tzviya> https://github.com/w3c/calendar/issues
18:35:57 <janina> tzviya: they're responding only on github
18:36:23 <janina> tzviya: fixed join link, e.g.
18:36:49 <Judy> ack t
18:37:03 <Judy> agenda?
18:37:31 <janina> jamesn: still requires the meeting organizer to be on top of things
18:37:52 <janina> jamesn: but sending too early can happen anywhere with any tool
18:38:35 <janina> Judy: have needed to forward agenda from the invite emails, but any top preamble text I would add got stripped
18:39:29 <janina> jamesn: we don't have control of the join link, and we probably should
18:40:00 <janina> Judy: please file github as issues found
18:40:12 <janina> Judy: and please cc here
18:40:28 <Judy> agenda?
18:40:43 <Judy> zakim, next item
18:40:43 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Checking back in on multi-stakeholder representation in WGs and TFs -- taken up [from Judy]
18:41:11 <janina> Judy: asks how groups are doing on this?
18:43:53 <tzviya> q+ to comment on lack of representation in publishing
18:45:02 <janina> jamesn: ARIA having hard time with participation and people actually able to get needed work done
18:45:18 <janina> jamesn: features relatively OK, implementations is the problem
18:45:47 <janina> jamesn: very few people who know ins and outs of aapi's
18:45:59 <janina> jamesn: if they stop participating, we're in trouble
18:46:03 <Judy> q+
18:46:46 <janina> Judy: wonders if an artifact of being so long in virtual space? No hallway opportunities!
18:47:09 <janina> Judy: asks about virtual coffee checkins
18:47:21 <janina> james everyone's so busy
18:47:58 <janina> jamesn: do chat offline, but not specifically individual issues
18:48:37 <janina> tzviya: references msg from a few weeks ago ....
18:48:41 <janina> james Yes, noted
18:49:18 <janina> tzviya: are using lightening talks on: "here's what you missed this year because you're so busy!"
18:49:27 <janina> q+
18:50:13 <janina> jamesn: we get implementations because JD does them
18:50:44 <jeanne> Janina: I want to have a virtual coffee with James about @@
18:51:05 <janina> tzviya: notes need more participation beyond blind and lv
18:51:58 <Ryladog> Yes
18:52:33 <Judy> q?
18:52:35 <Judy> ack t
18:52:35 <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to comment on lack of representation in publishing
18:52:37 <Judy> ack ju
18:52:40 <Judy> ack ja
18:54:57 <Judy> agenda?
18:55:46 <janina> Judy: proposes to bring topic back in august
18:56:38 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/blog/2021/06/diversity-and-inclusion-at-w3c-inclusion-fund-and-fellowships-for-tpac-2021/
18:56:40 <janina> Judy: diversity fund continues to benefit from reminders
18:56:51 <janina> tzviya: funding to attend tpac
18:57:25 <janina> tzviya: actually two funds; equipment needs open; soon also fellowships to attend
18:57:38 <janina> tzviya: current deadline aug 15, may extend
18:59:03 <janina> Judy: want to be very blunt here--need wg's to be reminded and reminded; please raise that it's available and apps are welcomjeanhave mentioned, but honorarium is new to me
18:59:12 <janina> Judy: do you have link?
18:59:17 <janina> jeanne: in friday's agenda
18:59:33 <Ryladog> LOL
19:00:06 <janina> james: have
19:00:49 <janina> Judy: suggests WAI-IG could promote?
19:00:58 <janina> tzviya: yes, please
19:00:59 <Ryladog> Yes
19:01:09 <Ryladog> Can you sendit to me Tziya?
19:01:11 <Ryladog> No
19:01:32 <Ryladog> Thank you!
19:02:12 <janina> Judy: reminds we're in process transitioning with shadi's position; any suggestions, please advise; should be job posting this week
19:02:32 <janina> Judy: needs to be E.U. authorization
19:03:12 <Judy> s/authorization/work eligible/
19:03:30 <Ryladog> Bye
19:04:25 <Judy> rssagent, make minutes
19:04:39 <Judy> rrsagent, make minutes
19:04:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/28-waicc-minutes.html Judy
19:06:03 <janina> present+ james
19:07:00 <Judy> rrsagent, make minutes
19:07:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/28-waicc-minutes.html Judy
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20:52:38 <Judy> Judy has changed the topic to: Next WAI Coordination Call is August 25th.
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