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11:02:59 <kaz> meeting: WoT Marketing
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11:03:25 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Philipp_Blum
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11:04:17 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool
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11:05:14 <citrullin> topic: Minutes review
11:05:38 <citrullin> scribnick: citrullin
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11:06:34 <citrullin> sk: Last time, I wasn't able to be part of the meeting. Thanks, Daniel for taking care.
11:06:46 <citrullin> sk: Did you merge some PRs?
11:06:56 <citrullin> dp: Yes, we merged the one from Ege, I think.
11:08:23 <kaz> present+ Tomoakis_Mizushima
11:08:40 <citrullin> sk: You also discussed the social media icons.
11:08:58 <citrullin> mm: All makefiles have the social media links. Please tell me, if one is missing.
11:09:12 <citrullin> dp: The marketing makefile one is missing.
11:09:15 <citrullin> mm: Going to fix it.
11:09:48 <citrullin> sk: Any objections?
11:09:51 <citrullin> ... no objections.
11:11:39 <citrullin> topic: Summer break
11:11:55 <citrullin> sk: Should we make clear on the marketing page that we are on a summer break?
11:12:05 <citrullin> mm: Yes, we should mention it.
11:13:10 <citrullin> mm: Under events we should mentioned the cancelations.
11:13:32 <citrullin> sk: Daniel, can you take that action?
11:13:39 <citrullin> dp: I wonder where to put it.
11:14:11 <citrullin> mm: If people join over the website, we should have it there as well.
11:14:44 <citrullin> dp: That is fine for me. We can link to the Wiki.
11:15:15 <citrullin> mm: Yes, that is fine. Add a link to the Wikipage, that people should check first.
11:15:32 <citrullin> dp: Doesn't it belong to the webConf section?
11:15:52 <citrullin> mm: You are right. In bold.
11:16:27 <dape> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations
11:17:36 <citrullin> sk: Do you need an issue for it?
11:17:43 <citrullin> dp: No, I noted it down.
11:18:04 <citrullin> topic: Liason webpage
11:18:22 <citrullin> sk: Kaz, what is the status of the eClass Liason? Is it updated?
11:18:57 <citrullin> Kaz: I check with Koralie again.
11:19:08 <citrullin> topic: Webanalytics
11:19:31 <citrullin> sk: Daniel, do you have any news on this?
11:19:35 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#July_27.2C_2021
11:20:12 <citrullin> dp: Yes, I think the admin has to create a space for us. They are getting back to us when the have an update on this.
11:20:17 <kaz> i|Last time,|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/07/20-wot-marketing-minutes.html July-20|https://www.w3.org/2021/07/20-wot-marketing-minutes.html
11:20:23 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:20:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:20:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/27-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:20:40 <citrullin> topic: PRs
11:21:08 <citrullin> sk: Do we have a section for commercial application?
11:21:23 <citrullin> dp: Not at the moment. Since we don't have much, I feel like we should just add it to the list.
11:21:56 <citrullin> PR 191 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/191
11:22:07 <citrullin> sk: Any objections to add it to the list?
11:22:11 <citrullin> ... no objections.
11:22:15 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
11:22:15 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Philipp_Blum, Daniel_Peintner, Michael_McCool, Tomoakis_Mizushima
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11:22:35 <kaz> present- Tmoakis_Mizushima
11:22:40 <citrullin> PR 89 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/89
11:22:47 <kaz> present- Tomoakis_Mizushima
11:22:53 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:22:54 <citrullin> sk: It's an old one, right? No news, right?
11:23:02 <citrullin> mm: I updated the PR, I think.
11:23:21 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
11:23:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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11:23:49 <citrullin> mm: We would like to have tutorials etc.
11:24:14 <citrullin> sk: So, we keep it open until they get back to us?
11:24:17 <kaz> s/scribnick:/scribenick:/
11:24:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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11:24:22 <citrullin> mm: Yes.
11:24:51 <kaz> s/Liason/Liaison/
11:24:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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11:25:13 <kaz> s/Webanaltics/Web analytics/
11:25:29 <citrullin> mm: It mostly applies to tutorials, so that people can just use it without asking for it.
11:25:30 <kaz> s/the have/they have/
11:25:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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11:25:50 <citrullin> sk: Okay, let's just keep it here for now.
11:26:20 <citrullin> mm: Do we want to make the marketing call to a WG/CG call? Kaz, what do you think?
11:26:48 <citrullin> kaz: The WoT CG is not really that active.
11:27:10 <citrullin> mm: But if we make it a CG and have that license, it makes it easier for people to contribute.
11:27:24 <citrullin> kaz: That is an interesting question. Especially for the japanese CG.
11:28:31 <citrullin> mm: We can have the japanese cg as task force in the cg.
11:28:41 <citrullin> kaz: Yes, we should talk to the japanese cg about this.
11:28:46 <kaz> s/japanese CG./Japanese CG. Also maybe it might be better to find a more active Chair for the original WoT CG./
11:29:41 <citrullin> kaz: We should also think about what to do in the IG and CG.
11:29:53 <citrullin> mm: I mainly think for the CG about tutorials etc.
11:30:33 <citrullin> sk: I understand the motivation for it. I am under the impression we have so many groups. It's a lot.
11:30:37 <kaz> q+
11:31:23 <cris> q+
11:31:24 <citrullin> mm: I personally think we need to recharter first. Let's keep an eye on this. We can invite people as guests to the IG/WG.
11:32:06 <citrullin> kaz: Everyone should be clear what group works on what.
11:33:01 <citrullin> mm: Right now we recharter the IG. If we reboot the CG, we probably want to move the tutorials etc. to the CG.
11:33:25 <kaz> q-
11:33:43 <kaz> q?
11:33:47 <kaz> ack c
11:33:49 <kaz> q+
11:34:15 <citrullin> ca: I like the idea to open the contribution. The guest mechanism isn't good, if we grow enough. We can wait until the next charter. That makes sense.
11:35:36 <citrullin> sk: I would like to have a german CG as well. There are some industry companies interested in it. I will make a proposal for it.
11:35:57 <sebastian> q?
11:35:58 <kaz> q?
11:36:26 <citrullin> kaz: I am fine with having another CG, as long as they follow the charter.
11:37:06 <citrullin> kaz: We should just make clear who is working on what. I agree with ca, we can wait for now to figure out the responsibilites.
11:37:32 <kaz> ack k
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11:38:24 <McCool> q+
11:38:29 <kaz> q+
11:38:35 <citrullin> sk: Ege is looking for a student, which makes a nice video. I don't know what the current status is on this.
11:39:14 <citrullin> mm: I think we have two issues. 1. Appropriate code and documentation and the second one is about the video.
11:39:42 <citrullin> mm: Universe course is probably different than a Youtube video.
11:40:03 <kaz> q?
11:40:04 <citrullin> sk: I can't comment on this. We have to ask Ege.
11:40:10 <kaz> ack m
11:41:06 <citrullin> sk: I have an update. Philipp and I had a call with a Youtuber. His name is Shawn. We contacted him, since he did some WoT things in the past.
11:41:49 <citrullin> sk: It was based on WebThings, not the W3C standard. Unfortantelty, he doesn't have time for making a video.
11:42:13 <kaz> s/a video/a video this time/
11:45:51 <cris> q+
11:46:31 <citrullin> sk: He mentioned that we probably should make an Arduino library. So, Philipp is going to migrate the WebThings Arduino library.
11:47:13 <Mizushima> https://github.com/WebThingsIO/webthing-arduino
11:48:15 <citrullin> Kaz: I am sceptical. We should be careful about their contributions. If that is a paid contribution that is a very different approach to the normal W3C process.
11:54:52 <citrullin> pb: Would it be fine, if we have an external source and the WG just decides to embrace it?
11:55:00 <citrullin> kaz: Yes, I would just be careful with it.
11:55:32 <citrullin> sk: I don't think that is part of the W3C. This is something outside of the W3C. Just some members also doing things outside of the WG.
11:56:07 <McCool> q+
11:57:50 <citrullin> q?
11:58:22 <kaz> ack k
11:59:49 <kaz> [adjourned]
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