IRC log of wot-discovery on 2021-07-26

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meeting: WoT Discovery

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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Andrea_Cimmino, Christian_Glomb, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool

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present+ Farshid_Tavakolizadeh

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present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima

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Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#26_July_2021

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chair: McCool

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scribenick: acimmino

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meeting will last 2h

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meeting starts reviewing last meeting's minutes

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i/last/topic: Preliminary/

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i/start/topic: Minutes/

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-> https://www.w3.org/2021/07/19-wot-discovery-minutes.html July-19

14:09:19 [acimmino]

mccool: since no objections are presented, minutes are published

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mccool: ...next thing to discuss is cancellations, in august no discovery calls will occur

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i/next thing/topic: Cancellation schedule/

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s/topic: Preliminary//

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i/meeting will last/topic: Preliminary/

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14:12:35 [acimmino]

mccool: ..regarding the timeline likely we will need an extension of 6 months

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mccool:..if we add 6 months we will end up in January or Febrary, when we should have the CR transition

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...we need also the implementations

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i/regarding/topic: Publication timelines/

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s/...next/next/

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s/..if/ if/

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s/..regarding/regarding/

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14:17:53 [acimmino]

mccool is setting up the schedule for the charter end date

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mccool: if we have a test fest in september, it will be pretty much the spec

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mccool:since farshid will not be available, we could do instead the testfest early october

14:21:48 [McCool]

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021

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mccool: we could have the test fest a week before the breakout sessions

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[[

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12 October: AC Meeting

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18 - 22 October : Breakout sessions

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25 - 29 October : WG/IG/BG/CG meetings and Joint Group Meetings

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]]

14:23:16 [acimmino]

...the week of the 11th is probably a good week for the testfest

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s/...the/mccool: the/

14:26:07 [acimmino]

mccool: one of our outcomes should be an implementation report

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...for discovery

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...we should start looking at the list of assertions to check which one are testable

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mccool: ...we need implementation descriptions, and start gathering the implementations information

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i/one of our/topic: Testing/

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i|one of our|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/tree/main/implementations WoT Discovery Implementations|

14:34:24 [acimmino]

mccool: we need to talk also about testing. We need a test plan

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... we need to organise where the test are

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mcool: farshid has done some work on this line

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acimmino: one of the main problems in the test iis the ordering of the array

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mccool: well we will change the context to solve this

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s/ iis/ is/

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s/mcool:/mccool:/

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Related issue for JSON Array ordering: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1188

14:43:07 [FarshidT]

I think the spec does say indirectly that the order should be maintained: "A value of type Array MUST be serialized as JSON array". JSON arrays have a consistent ordering.

14:43:20 [acimmino]

mccool: is drafting a testing plan

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this plan should be the outcome of the testfest

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q?

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mccool: October up to December we work on test of the implementation

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q+

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ack kt

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toumura: wondering about the procedure for the IANA consideration

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kaz: we should talk with PLH

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... this is a bit different from the usual IANA registry for Media Types

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i/wondering/scribenik: kaz/

14:56:14 [McCool]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/187

14:56:45 [acimmino]

mccool: we should close the issues we have opened, as suggested by farshid, before doing a feature freezing

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mccool: ..for the implenetations

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i/mccool/toumura: I have Issu 187 on that/

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s/Issu/Issue/

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s/https/-> https/

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s/187/187 Issue 187 - Registration of Well-known URI, Service Name and CoRE Resource Type/

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14:58:28 [acimmino]

farshid has annotated some Issues that could be closed

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mccool is currently reviewing these

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issue #9 gets closed since no objections are presented

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https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/9

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i/farshid/topic: Issues to be closed/

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s/https/-> https/

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https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/labels/Propose%20Closing

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s|issues/9|issues/9 Issue 9 - Create structure to organize PoCs|

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s/https/-> https/

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s/Closing/Closing - Issues to be closed/

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s/scribenik:/scribenick:/

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i/we should close/scribenick: acimmino/

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i/I have Issue 187/scribenick: kaz/

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i/for the imple/scribenick: acimmino/

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s/..for/for/

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s/implenetations/implementations/

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next issue to close is issue #16

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15:02:24 [acimmino]

but for the moment it will be left opened

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next issue to be review is #21

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s/ - Issues/ Issues/

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i|issue #16|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/16 Issue 16 - Handle huge set of Thing Descriptions (pagination, streaming, etc.)|

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since no objections are presented the issue is closed

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i|since|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/21 Issue 21 - Consider Role "Part of" TDs in Query Results|

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next issue is #63

15:07:09 [acimmino]

next issue to be review is # 63, due to the lack of objections, the issue is closed

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/63 Issue 63 - How to deal with JSON-LD fragments in query responses

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s/next issue is #63//

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next issue is #28, which is also closed

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next issue is #53

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i|#53|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/28 Issue 28 - Directories should notify subscribers when a TD is updated|

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/53 Issue 53 - Clarifying Introduction Mechanisms

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closed

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next issue #144

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/144 Issue 144 - Which aspects of the Directory Service API's TD are normative?

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i/closed/scribenick: kaz/

15:18:11 [acimmino]

since no objections are presented for closing the issue, issue 53 is also closed.

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next issue is #144 which is also closed

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i/since/scribenick: acimmino/

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next issue is #86

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that has been closed, mccool has also add a clarification in the clousure

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s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/144 Issue 144 - Which aspects of the Directory Service API's TD are normative?||

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s/next issue #144//

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i|#144|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/144 Issue 144 - Which aspects of the Directory Service API's TD are normative?|

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15:21:15 [acimmino]

next issue to be review is #183

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i|#86|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/86 Issue 86 - "Thing description" for Directory should be a "Thing Model"|

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i|#183|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/183 Issue 183 - Identifying what information is conveyed in the TD and what is conveyed in the text|

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/215 related PR 215 - Add HTTP paths to assertions

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15:29:00 [acimmino]

mccool: we should mmake the scopes for OAuth normative

15:29:37 [acimmino]

mccool: the thing with this issue is that it has a lot of smaller issues, we should close this and create those smaller issues instead

15:34:49 [acimmino]

mccool: maybe we should label as discuss to have some work tracked down

15:35:08 [acimmino]

farshid: there is a PR, if we close it we could close issue #60

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s/mmake/make/

15:36:03 [acimmino]

current issue under review is #213, about alternative pagination

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/213 PR 213 - Add alternative payload format (2)

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s/current issue/current PR/

15:44:13 [acimmino]

next issue to be review is #39

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/39 Issue 39 - Immutable Thing Description IDs inside the directory

15:51:08 [acimmino]

there is a resolution for closing the issue, and therefore, issue #39 is closed

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next Issue is 208

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-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/208 Issue 208 - Read-Only Directories

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meeting finishes due to time

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[adjourned]

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