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12:49:20 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
12:49:20 <trackbot> Date: 21 July 2021
12:49:28 <jasonjgw> agenda+ XR Accessibility User Requirements: issues and publication request.
12:49:29 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Joint working group meetings at TPAC 2021.
12:49:29 <jasonjgw> agenda+ WebXR Layers API level 1 review: continuation of discussion.
12:49:29 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Automotive accessibility: scope of work, requirement analysis, and potential deliverables.
12:49:31 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Documents in progress: Natural Language Accessibility and Synchronization Accessibility.
12:49:34 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
12:49:38 <jasonjgw> present+
12:49:40 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
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12:57:40 <JPaton> present+ John_Paton
12:58:23 <janina> present+
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13:01:45 <Joshue108> present+
13:01:55 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:01:55 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- XR Accessibility User Requirements: issues and publication request. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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13:02:07 <SteveNoble> present+
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13:02:38 <Judy> [Judy regrets for first part of meeting, will join as soon as gets out of another meeting]
13:02:51 <scott_h> present+
13:03:09 <SteveNoble> Joshue108: Getting close to finished
13:04:03 <SteveNoble> Thanks to Josh for all the work!
13:05:01 <Joshue108> JOC: I'll mint a CFC ready commit, likely tomorrow and we can get ready for creating a publication branch.
13:05:33 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Suggest we look at draft next week to make sure we are ready for CFC
13:05:56 <SteveNoble> +1
13:06:03 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:06:03 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Joint working group meetings at TPAC 2021. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:07:11 <SteveNoble> janina: Several meeting will be of interest to RQTF
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13:08:14 <SteveNoble> janina: We want to meet with timed text (and perhaps second screen) for the synchronization discussion
13:10:55 <SteveNoble> janina: another might be looking at a glossary for consistent language among specifications
13:12:41 <SteveNoble> janina: We will know more after Friday, so by next week we will have begun with outreach to other committee chairs
13:13:04 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Can bring back on the agenda in  a few weeks
13:13:09 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:13:09 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- WebXR Layers API level 1 review: continuation of discussion. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:13:57 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Have been having some discussion on this by email
13:15:14 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Let's see what further comments we receive
13:15:51 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Have had good discussions around captions
13:16:34 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Question. Do we want to express a strong preference for closed captions over burned in?
13:16:55 <janina> xraccess.org
13:17:51 <SteveNoble> janina: Question: Do we know who xraccess.org is?
13:19:50 <SteveNoble> Frances: may know a contact for this
13:21:08 <SteveNoble> Joshue108: They did suggest the desire for coordination
13:23:17 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Bact to the captions question...any thoughts on closed vs burned in?
13:23:40 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Closed captions seem to be the norm
13:24:28 <SteveNoble> janina: Seems that closed captions allow for more user setup
13:25:17 <SteveNoble> Frances: Burned in may sometimes have benefits, but in most cases closed captions work best
13:27:30 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Josh will continue to respond to comments received
13:28:01 <SteveNoble> Joshue108: Have asked immersive captions group for comments
13:28:11 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:28:11 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Automotive accessibility: scope of work, requirement analysis, and potential deliverables. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:29:36 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: We want to start defining and clairifying the issues and what work we may want to take up
13:30:15 <SteveNoble> Ted: would like to hear from others on their thoughts
13:31:31 <SteveNoble> Ted: have had a contact from Eric
13:32:04 <SteveNoble> Ted: Wanted to know if there was interest in collaboration
13:32:48 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Potential scope of work?
13:33:13 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Perhaps opening a wiki page to start collecting information
13:34:14 <SteveNoble> Ted: Best practices document at https://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/wiki/Best_Practices#Accessibility_.28A11y.29
13:34:55 <SteveNoble> janina: Media related systems - out of scope?
13:37:44 <SteveNoble> Ted: Eric is from Melbourne University
13:38:24 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Sounds like we have a few avenues of work
13:38:43 <Joshue108> q+ to say some term to explore this space more is welcome
13:39:17 <Joshue108> ack me]
13:39:22 <Joshue108> ack me
13:39:22 <Zakim> Joshue, you wanted to say some term to explore this space more is welcome
13:40:02 <SteveNoble> Joshue108: Further exploration with others who are doing work
13:40:59 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Natural language interaction is one example of where automotive accessibility might have a connection
13:41:35 <SteveNoble> janina: Will there be any TPAC activity on this?
13:41:47 <Joshue108> +1 to break out session on automotive a11y
13:42:26 <SteveNoble> Ted: At least a breakout session
13:43:59 <SteveNoble> Ted: many of these people are in Europe, so meeting times will need to be cognizant of that
13:44:52 <SteveNoble> Ted: suggest seeing who is interested first so we can keep meeting time in mind
13:46:27 <SteveNoble> Ted: will write up a breakout overrview
13:46:41 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:46:41 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Documents in progress: Natural Language Accessibility and Synchronization Accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:48:05 <SteveNoble> janina: Can we go ever the TOC, and figure out where some research may exist?
13:49:01 <SteveNoble> Raja: In regard to captions, there is some research in delay and size requirements
13:50:09 <SteveNoble> Raja: there was some discussion on minimal resolution and size
13:51:38 <SteveNoble> Jason: Any further comments?
13:53:06 <SteveNoble> judy: Suggest we do some of this discussion by email and then do follow-up discussion in the next meeting
13:53:15 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: +1
13:53:36 <Judy> q+
13:53:55 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: Not much work has been done lately on natural language
13:54:53 <SteveNoble> Judy: Would like to suggest accessibility of remote meetings may have priority
13:55:33 <SteveNoble> Joshue108: OK with me; XAUR is my current priority at the moment
13:57:28 <SteveNoble> scott_h: Working through feedback on remote meetings
13:58:23 <SteveNoble> jasonjgw: XR, Remote meetings and synchronization for next meeting
13:58:30 <jasonjgw> zakim, bye
13:58:31 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, John_Paton, janina, Joshue, SteveNoble, scott_h
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