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15:40:38 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
15:40:38 <trackbot> Date: 21 July 2021
15:40:45 <janina> agenda?
15:40:50 <janina> zakim, clear agenda
15:40:50 <Zakim> agenda cleared
15:40:55 <janina> Chair:  Janina
15:40:55 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
15:40:55 <janina> agenda+ TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021
15:40:55 <janina> agenda+ Task Force Updates
15:40:55 <janina> agenda+ FAST Update
15:40:58 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
15:41:01 <janina> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
15:41:04 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
15:41:06 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update &  Comment Feedback (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
15:41:09 <janina> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
15:41:12 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
15:41:14 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
15:41:17 <janina> agenda+ be done
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15:56:41 <janina>  regrets: Becky_Gibson, Mike_Beganyi, Gottfried_Zimmerman, Amy_Carney
15:57:07 <janina> zakim, drop item 8
15:57:07 <Zakim> agendum 8, CSS Update &  Comment Feedback (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues, dropped
16:00:58 <paul_grenier> present+
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16:02:20 <IanPouncey> present+
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16:03:00 <JF> agenda?
16:03:11 <JF> Present+
16:05:22 <Joshue108> present+
16:06:07 <Fazio> present+
16:06:22 <janina> present+
16:06:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
16:06:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
16:07:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> Zakim, next item
16:07:07 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
16:07:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
16:08:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda: this
16:08:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> Zakim, next item
16:08:10 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC Planning https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021 -- taken up [from janina]
16:09:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: TPAC planning proceeding well
16:09:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... discussing with Silver the joint meetings planned
16:09:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Recommending COGA do a break-out session on Content Useable
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16:10:27 <Jonny_James> present+
16:10:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... had a scoping conversation with Automotive
16:11:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Concern about mono-culture in the automobile, and coming mono-culture in Browsers with the dominance of Blink
16:12:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... We should foster conversation around mono-culture, as mono-culture is proven to be less robust, less competetive, etc
16:12:50 <Joshue108> +1 to conversations around mono cultures and implication etc
16:12:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... specifications generally ask for two implementations. How can there be two implementations in a mono-culture?
16:14:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... APA keeps an eye on the linkage of these technologies with the UI/UX, which impacts a11y.
16:15:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: TPAC invitations on their way out, the old boilerplate templates help it go smoothly
16:16:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next
16:16:04 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from janina]
16:16:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Research Questions is almost "there" with XR
16:16:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... synchronization spec looks on taret for Sept.
16:16:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> s/taret/target
16:17:21 <Joshue108> agenda?
16:17:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... COGA is considering a 1 or 2 day meeting at TPAC
16:17:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> Joshue108: COGA is recruiting for a mental health issue paper
16:18:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:18:18 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
16:18:20 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:18:20 <Zakim> 4. FAST Update [from janina]
16:18:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next
16:18:22 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- FAST Update -- taken up [from janina]
16:19:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> Joshue108: FAST rec'd survey results, and is working on functional needs in the Silver TF sub-group
16:19:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Rec'd a proposal from Jake on how to work out existing user requirements and gaps, which looks mature and helpful
16:22:40 <JF> a "what" list?
16:23:05 <JF> Q+
16:25:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> Joshue108: Reviewed the purpose of FAST and how it will be applied to specification gap analysis
16:27:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Related, W3C is weighing the hosting of a registry, to allow normative reference to non-normative registries (such as schema.org)
16:27:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... as many W3C groups often find a need reference non-normative registries (e.g., recent discussion in Pronunciation)
16:29:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Web accessibility-wide glossary being considered
16:29:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... to provide consistent definitions and terms
16:30:08 <janina> q?
16:30:10 <JF> https://schema.org/docs/howwework.html
16:30:20 <janina> ack jf
16:30:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> JF: John does want us to know, schema.org does have a process and is not just a "wiki"
16:30:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... it is a bit more tightly locked down than has been suggested today
16:33:58 <janina> https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Process/Drafts/#registries
16:34:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: The above is the registries draft document under consideration
16:34:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next
16:34:36 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
16:35:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:35:17 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
16:35:18 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:35:18 <Zakim> 6. A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]
16:35:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next
16:35:20 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
16:35:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:35:40 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
16:35:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next
16:35:41 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:35:41 <Zakim> 7. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from janina]
16:35:41 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
16:36:03 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/10
16:36:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: DOM review, DOM Review Draft — Published 21 June 2021
16:37:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> paul_grenier: I can take a look.
16:37:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: You can focus on changes, start in the change log
16:37:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> IanPouncey: I can help
16:38:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:38:56 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
16:38:57 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:38:57 <Zakim> 9. Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned [from janina]
16:38:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next
16:39:00 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from janina]
16:39:29 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Active
16:40:45 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebXR_Layers_API_Level_1
16:42:40 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Picture-in-Picture
16:42:47 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/picture-in-picture/issues/179
16:49:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: PIP seems very similar to second/multiple screens
16:49:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... will suggest we meet to discuss issue #179
16:49:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
16:49:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up next
16:49:49 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
16:51:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
16:51:08 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
16:51:09 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Notifications_API
16:51:10 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:51:10 <Zakim> 11. Other Business [from janina]
16:51:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up previous
16:51:19 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up previous', Lionel_Wolberger
16:54:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: We have been meaning to speak with Notifications API
16:55:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... e.g., important to be able to shut off all notifications (not go item by item)
16:56:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Do Not Disturb is an accessibility issue; also a COGA issue (no distractions)
16:57:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
16:57:39 <Zakim> Present: Joshue, becky, paul_grenier, mike_beganyi, JF, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, NeilS, amy_c, JonnyJames, IanPouncey, Fazio, Jonny_James
16:57:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see Jonny_James, JF, IanPouncey, Lionel_Wolberger, Fazio, RRSAgent, paul_grenier, janina, MichaelC, Zakim, jasonjgw, manu, trackbot, slightlyoff, Rachael, tink, ada,
16:57:42 <Zakim> ... ZoeBijl, Joshue108, jamesn
16:58:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
16:58:08 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Joshue, becky, paul_grenier, mike_beganyi, JF, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, NeilS, amy_c, JonnyJames, IanPouncey, Fazio, Jonny_James
16:58:12 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:58:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/21-apa-minutes.html Zakim
16:58:14 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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