22:55:12 RRSAgent has joined #silver-conf 22:55:12 logging to https://www.w3.org/2021/07/20-silver-conf-irc 22:55:29 Meeting: Silver Text Alternatives Ad Hoc 22:55:36 Date: 20 Jul 2021 22:57:39 zakim, who's here? 22:57:39 Present: (no one) 22:57:41 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, sajkaj, MichaelC, trackbot, Rachael 22:59:43 Makoto has joined #silver-conf 22:59:50 present+ 23:00:08 PeterKorn has joined #silver-conf 23:01:24 present+ 23:05:18 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/User_Generated_Content#User_Generated_Content 23:05:29 jeanne has joined #silver-conf 23:07:00 present+ 23:07:58 @Jeanne - I made a bunch of edits to Janina's first "Editor's Note" in the first section of the page, trying to speak to issues raised by Cybelle and others, that I'm not particularly happy with. they need more work. 23:08:27 I wanted to bring your attention to them, to note this text is very much a work in progress. 23:11:03 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG3/2020/methods/text-alternative-editable/ 23:16:06 scribe: sajkaj 23:16:13 pk: presents background ... 23:16:38 Makoto: agrees with general notion that a site doing most/all of what it can should at least score some minimum 23:16:47 jeanne: suggests avoiding scoring values for now 23:17:17 Makoto: agrees -- talking about scoring at this time would make things more complicated 23:17:40 Makoto: offers to review existing methods from atag and come up with a "to do" list 23:17:49 Makoto: provide popup prompt, help, etc 23:18:15 q+ 23:18:15 Makoto: once we've created the list, we can order it into steps 23:19:00 ack PeterKorn PeterKorn Q: is the right way in a method text alt available -- something then added to other tabs? 23:19:18 PeterKorn: or, more sensible to say "text alternatives prompted for: ..." 23:19:26 PeterKorn: and a separate collection of things to do 23:19:31 q+ 23:19:35 ack poet 23:19:40 ack PeterKorn 23:20:43 jeanne: notes outcome is that it is or isn't available, methods do the inner steps 23:21:42 sajkaj: suggests the outcome "exiswts" would pass bad alt text as well as good? 23:22:21 PeterKorn: do we ask for it as part of the flow? provide guidance on what constitutes good, etc; but not require that the user actually enters something 23:22:30 jeanne: agrees strongly -- we discussed in atag 23:22:52 PeterKorn: so "ext alt available" may not be correct in practice 23:23:21 jeanne: in this case it would mean "text alternative mechanism available" 23:23:48 PeterKorn: so we would have one or more callout under outcomes for ugc 23:25:15 jeanne: points to text alternative editable as the place for ugc 23:25:33 PeterKorn: text alternative method available 23:25:48 jeanne: could actually rename ... 23:26:01 PeterKorn: makes sense 23:26:43 Makoto: will review this method and suggest next steps 23:26:57 jeanne: please feel free to stage whatever you think, makoto! 23:29:55 sajkaj: asks about functional breakdown, e.g. decorative, functional vs informative, etc 23:30:06 jeanne: not yet; we can ednote and ask for feedback 23:30:50 Makoto: will also share this topic with ta group 23:31:41 PeterKorn: suggests making changes in the wcag draft and ping when ready for review 23:31:50 PeterKorn: confirms we're aiming still at august wd 23:32:01 jeanne: certainly hope so, noting it's late, but maybe 23:35:06 rrsagent, make minutes 23:35:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/20-silver-conf-minutes.html sajkaj 23:35:13 rrsagent, make log public 23:35:15 rrsagent, make minutes 23:35:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/20-silver-conf-minutes.html sajkaj 01:27:41 Zakim has left #silver-conf