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11:08:05 <dape> TOPIC: Previous minutes
11:08:08 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Zoltan_Kis
11:08:11 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#19_Jule_2021
11:08:12 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/07/12-wot-script-minutes.html
11:08:25 <kaz> s/html/html July-12/
11:09:09 <dape> TOPIC: Quick Updates / Questions
11:09:16 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:09:43 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Vacation plans
11:09:52 <dape> CA: maybe middle of August
11:10:05 <dape> ZK: on vacatation right now
11:10:08 <kaz> q?
11:10:14 <kaz> q+ Mizushima
11:10:17 <kaz> ack m
11:10:41 <dape> TM: beginning of September
11:11:00 <dape> ... I can even join since it is night time in Japan
11:11:24 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Publication plans
11:11:57 <dape> DP: I don't think we are in hurry
11:12:11 <dape> ZK: Started work on discovery
11:12:21 <dape> ... should converge on discovery first
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11:12:40 <dape> ... maybe updated note in autumn
11:12:42 <dape> CA: +1
11:12:58 <dape> ... collect more substantial changes
11:13:15 <dape> TOPIC: Issues
11:13:33 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Publish Thing Description schema and Types in another npm package
11:13:40 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/327
11:14:13 <dape> DP: Cristiano proposes to split TD and API changes
11:16:07 <dape> CA: Issue related to WebThings io work I am doing
11:16:34 <dape> ... versioning scheme is not very clear
11:19:10 <dape> DP: add historical changes section
11:23:33 <dape> ZK: managed version?
11:23:41 <dape> ... version the source
11:24:35 <dape> CA: TD does not publish on NPM
11:28:09 <dape> CA: I can try to work on the split
11:28:27 <dape> ... NPM needs to be done by DanieLP
11:32:17 <kaz> q+
11:33:00 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Should writeProperty() return a value
11:33:06 <dape> ->  https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/193
11:33:19 <dape> Kaz: working on ECHONET binding
11:33:37 <dape> ... might take longer
11:34:47 <dape> SUBTOPIC: observeallproperties and unobserveallproperties methods are missing
11:34:55 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/312
11:36:54 <dape> CA: WebThings can get all events
11:37:17 <dape> ... in this case binding acts already
11:37:57 <dape> ... the need is to capture this situation in scripting
11:38:10 <dape> ... difficult to know whether to re-open connection
11:38:35 <dape> ZK: can provide convenience API
11:38:45 <dape> ... subscribe all events / properties
11:38:53 <dape> ... explain exception
11:39:02 <dape> ... one can do with one or many requests
11:39:46 <dape> ... observeAll present and runtime can decide wheteh to use binding or loop
11:40:28 <dape> CA: if binding does not support observeAll we can also throw error
11:40:51 <dape> ... makes clear what the binding supports
11:41:02 <dape> ZK: we could do both.. having option
11:41:48 <dape> ... observeAll is like convenience method
11:46:41 <dape> ... convenience methods easier to maintain
11:48:44 <dape> .. having option "strict" w.r.t. to TD op's
11:49:08 <dape> CA: Wonder whether this is better done in utility library
11:49:16 <dape> ... we use strict always
11:50:01 <dape> ... similar to observeProperty .. binding not supporting observing
11:50:53 <dape> ZK: seems a bit different to me
11:51:32 <dape> .. strict way by default but can be relaxed
11:53:59 <dape> CA: should stick to one rule
11:54:08 <dape> ... strict to operation
11:55:45 <dape> ZK: can add interaction-options in the future if there is interest
11:57:16 <dape> DP: still have  binding issue
11:58:18 <kaz> q?
11:58:21 <kaz> ack k
12:01:23 <dape> ZK: miss next Monday
12:01:47 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:01:55 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:02:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:02:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/19-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
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