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13:08:59 <kaz> meeting: Testing
13:09:11 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan
13:10:00 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:13:52 <kaz> scribenick: Ege
13:14:32 <kaz> topic: Minutes
13:14:36 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/06/18-wot-pf-minutes.html June-18
13:14:49 <Ege> Topic: Minutes Review
13:14:59 <kaz> s/topic: Minutes//
13:15:06 <kaz> s|-> https://www.w3.org/2021/06/18-wot-pf-minutes.html June-18||
13:15:08 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/06/18-wot-pf-minutes.html June-18
13:15:20 <Ege> mm: any objections to publish?
13:15:26 <Ege> ... does not seem like it
13:17:00 <Ege> mm: we do not have much time left since people go on holidays in august
13:19:18 <Ege> mm: What is the rule for the new changes?
13:20:58 <Ege> I missed kaz's answer
13:21:14 <Ege> mm: we have some members that are not active, like huawei
13:21:33 <Ege> ek: I have talked and one of them is actually just californium
13:22:16 <kaz> s/I missed kaz's answer/kaz: if all the existing implementations can still process our old TDs, we can reuse the results for the v1.1 implementation reports, but I'm a bit concerned about possible degrading./
13:22:35 <kaz> s/, like huawei//
13:23:39 <Ege> mm: cool, that means that we should reorganize the specifications
13:26:21 <Ege> mm: we also have 3 categories. describer, Thing, consumer
13:30:13 <Ege> mm: we also need 2 implementations for optional features
13:32:29 <Ege> mm: we should reorganize the old testing repo
13:45:01 <Ege> ege: we need the implementation report of each specification to have its data in its repository
13:45:17 <Ege> mm: so not using the wot-testing?
13:45:36 <Ege> ege: no I mean that during the testing phases, until publication, we work on the wot-testing directory
13:45:51 <Ege> ... and then move results to the respective spec's repository
13:46:06 <kaz> q+
13:51:18 <kaz> ack k
13:52:05 <kaz> kaz: which ever is fine, having the testing resources under wot-testing or under each spec's repo
13:53:17 <kaz> ... but currently, the structure of each spec is kind of messy, so it might be better to have all the testing resources under wot-testing with a clearer structure
13:53:56 <kaz> ... in any case, we should not overwrite the ver. 1.0 implementation report given it's referred to from the REC documents
13:54:02 <kaz> mm: ok
13:54:04 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:54:08 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:54:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:54:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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