IRC log of pronunciation on 2021-07-14

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Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 14 July 2021
13:49:00 [Irfan]
present+
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agenda?
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zakim, clear agenda
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agenda cleared
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agenda?
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Chair: Irfan Ali
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Regrets: Steve
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Regrets: Neil
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Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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Agenda+ Conferences including TPAC
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Agenda+ Review Feedback https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/94
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Agenda+ Other Business
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zakim, agenda?
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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
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1. Agenda Review & Announcements [from Irfan]
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2. Conferences including TPAC [from Irfan]
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3. Review Feedback https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/94 [from Irfan]
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4. Other Business [from Irfan]
14:00:19 [paul_grenier]
present+
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present+
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present+ Dee
14:04:12 [paul_grenier]
zakim, who is here?
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Present: Irfan, paul_grenier, JF, SteveNoble_, mhakkinen, Dee, Alan, janina, NeilS, Alan_
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On IRC I see Dee, janina, Alan_, paul_grenier, RRSAgent, Irfan, MichaelC, Roy, Zakim, trackbot
14:04:35 [Roy]
present+
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scribe: paul_grenier
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from Irfan]
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14:10:50 [paul_grenier]
Irfan: ATIA presentation has been submitted
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mark: we haven't heard back
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Roy: our next updated working draft reflecting the feedback and refine the document should be before TPAC
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- Conferences including TPAC -- taken up [from Irfan]
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https://bbs.zdsr24.com/d/5-zhengdu-screenreader-manual-chapter-i
14:16:17 [paul_grenier]
Irfan: Mark mentioned we need to meet the ARIA WG, another is the CSS WG. What other groups should we meet with?
14:16:29 [paul_grenier]
janina: don't forget to set the agenda
14:17:43 [paul_grenier]
janina: we probably want to start socializing beyond TPAC as well
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mhakkinen: is there any activity with voice?
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janina: the workshop has died
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+1 to Timed Text
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Q+
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janina: they're just a specification for when things happen. So it would matter what mechanism we choose to do that.
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janina: TTML or WebVTT are the choices I'm aware of
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JF: they're really focused on rendering the text to the screen
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janina: we haven an RQTF deliverable by TPAC time about media synchronization
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janina: we're talking about what is fed to the audio system and they're specifying when
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mhakkinen: if CSS speech is truly dead or is there interest in resurrecting it. So, there's a mixed message.
14:24:50 [paul_grenier]
janina: if we have a dependency on that spec, we would have a reason to add them to the agenda but I don't think we have one.
14:26:10 [paul_grenier]
JF: as far as I recall, no one ever implemented the spec. Maybe we have a chat at TPAC.
14:26:24 [paul_grenier]
janina: if they're not moving it forward, it might not be important
14:27:11 [paul_grenier]
janina: becky and I are doing the coordination because often more than one group will have an agendum
14:27:33 [JF]
https://www.w3.org/TR/css-speech-1/#speaking-props
14:27:42 [paul_grenier]
Irfan: Paul and I will get the agenda and list to you
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zakim, next item
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I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, paul_grenier
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Q?
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ack me
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Review Feedback https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/94 -- taken up [from Irfan]
14:30:01 [paul_grenier]
janina: one of our biggest needs is this aapi problem.
14:30:48 [paul_grenier]
janina: there is the possibility of getting some EU research into this area but their process takes some time.
14:33:20 [paul_grenier]
note: AAPI = accessibility APIs (automation, iaccessible2, etc.)
14:34:33 [Roy]
https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/221
14:35:10 [paul_grenier]
Roy: there is some related information in this page, we may want to reach out
14:35:55 [janina]
https://www.w3.org/2021/07/08-apa-minutes.html
14:36:32 [paul_grenier]
janina: there's a followup meeting on the 22nd
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janina: can we describe how the pronunciation information will move from the page to AT
14:39:55 [paul_grenier]
janina: I'll comment on Domenic's post
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janina: we can add an agenda item for EPUB to discuss examples of pronunciatino
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zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- Other Business -- taken up [from Irfan]
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https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/92
14:48:15 [Dee]
https://www.rnib.org.uk/
14:56:02 [paul_grenier]
I will take on starting a draft response to this issue
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-pronunciation-minutes.html paul_grenier
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