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13:48:50 <trackbot> Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
13:48:50 <trackbot> Date: 14 July 2021
13:49:00 <Irfan> present+
13:49:03 <Irfan> agenda?
13:49:12 <Irfan> zakim, clear agenda
13:49:12 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:49:15 <Irfan> agenda?
13:49:21 <Irfan> Chair: Irfan Ali
13:49:58 <Irfan> Regrets: Steve
13:50:02 <Irfan> Regrets: Neil
13:50:13 <Irfan> Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:50:21 <Irfan> Agenda+ Conferences including TPAC
13:50:34 <Irfan> Agenda+ Review Feedback https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/94
13:50:41 <Irfan> Agenda+ Other Business
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14:00:09 <paul_grenier> zakim, agenda?
14:00:09 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
14:00:10 <Zakim> 1. Agenda Review & Announcements [from Irfan]
14:00:10 <Zakim> 2. Conferences including TPAC [from Irfan]
14:00:10 <Zakim> 3. Review Feedback https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/94 [from Irfan]
14:00:11 <Zakim> 4. Other Business [from Irfan]
14:00:19 <paul_grenier> present+
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14:02:51 <Dee> present+ Dee
14:04:12 <paul_grenier> zakim, who is here?
14:04:14 <Zakim> Present: Irfan, paul_grenier, JF, SteveNoble_, mhakkinen, Dee, Alan, janina, NeilS, Alan_
14:04:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see Dee, janina, Alan_, paul_grenier, RRSAgent, Irfan, MichaelC, Roy, Zakim, trackbot
14:04:35 <Roy> present+
14:08:56 <paul_grenier> scribe: paul_grenier
14:09:04 <paul_grenier> zakim, next item
14:09:04 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from Irfan]
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14:10:50 <paul_grenier> Irfan: ATIA presentation has been submitted
14:11:00 <paul_grenier> mark: we haven't heard back
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14:12:00 <paul_grenier> Roy: our next updated working draft reflecting the feedback and refine the document should be before TPAC
14:12:15 <paul_grenier> zakim, next item
14:12:15 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Conferences including TPAC -- taken up [from Irfan]
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14:13:56 <mhakkinen> https://bbs.zdsr24.com/d/5-zhengdu-screenreader-manual-chapter-i
14:16:17 <paul_grenier> Irfan: Mark mentioned we need to meet the ARIA WG, another is the CSS WG. What other groups should we meet with?
14:16:29 <paul_grenier> janina: don't forget to set the agenda
14:17:43 <paul_grenier> janina: we probably want to start socializing beyond TPAC as well
14:18:18 <paul_grenier> mhakkinen: is there any activity with voice?
14:18:27 <paul_grenier> janina: the workshop has died
14:19:59 <mhakkinen> +1 to Timed Text
14:20:22 <JF> Q+
14:20:56 <paul_grenier> janina: they're just a specification for when things happen. So it would matter what mechanism we choose to do that.
14:21:10 <paul_grenier> janina: TTML or WebVTT are the choices I'm aware of
14:21:31 <paul_grenier> JF: they're really focused on rendering the text to the screen
14:22:15 <paul_grenier> janina: we haven an RQTF deliverable by TPAC time about media synchronization
14:23:14 <paul_grenier> janina: we're talking about what is fed to the audio system and they're specifying when
14:24:05 <paul_grenier> mhakkinen: if CSS speech is truly dead or is there interest in resurrecting it. So, there's a mixed message.
14:24:50 <paul_grenier> janina: if we have a dependency on that spec, we would have a reason to add them to the agenda but I don't think we have one.
14:26:10 <paul_grenier> JF: as far as I recall, no one ever implemented the spec. Maybe we have a chat at TPAC.
14:26:24 <paul_grenier> janina: if they're not moving it forward, it might not be important
14:27:11 <paul_grenier> janina: becky and I are doing the coordination because often more than one group will have an agendum
14:27:33 <JF> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-speech-1/#speaking-props
14:27:42 <paul_grenier> Irfan: Paul and I will get the agenda and list to you
14:27:43 <paul_grenier> zakim, next item
14:27:43 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, paul_grenier
14:27:51 <JF> Q?
14:27:54 <JF> ack me
14:27:55 <paul_grenier> zakim, next item
14:27:55 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review Feedback https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/94 -- taken up [from Irfan]
14:30:01 <paul_grenier> janina: one of our biggest needs is this aapi problem.
14:30:48 <paul_grenier> janina: there is the possibility of getting some EU research into this area but their process takes some time.
14:33:20 <paul_grenier> note: AAPI = accessibility APIs (automation, iaccessible2, etc.)
14:34:33 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/221
14:35:10 <paul_grenier> Roy: there is some related information in this page, we may want to reach out
14:35:55 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2021/07/08-apa-minutes.html
14:36:32 <paul_grenier> janina: there's a followup meeting on the 22nd
14:38:02 <paul_grenier> janina: can we describe how the pronunciation information will move from the page to AT
14:39:55 <paul_grenier> janina: I'll comment on Domenic's post
14:43:09 <paul_grenier> janina: we can add an agenda item for EPUB to discuss examples of pronunciatino
14:47:12 <paul_grenier> zakim, next item
14:47:12 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Other Business -- taken up [from Irfan]
14:47:13 <Irfan> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/92
14:48:15 <Dee> https://www.rnib.org.uk/
14:56:02 <paul_grenier> I will take on starting a draft response to this issue
14:58:32 <paul_grenier> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:58:36 <paul_grenier> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:58:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2021/07/14-pronunciation-minutes.html paul_grenier
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